Worst. Episode. Ever. Poll.
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Masks. Boy was that one irritating and hard to sit through.
NO!!! Really??? You hate Rascals?? OMG, with lines like, "He's my number one dad!", and young Picard's "I want my father! I want my father" while stamping his feet and Riker giving the Ferengi the lesson on the ships computer??
Granted, the stuff between Ro and Guinan is cringeworthy...but i think the other stuff makes up for it. Definitely not on my 'worst' list....but.....
that's what makes horseracing!
The Ro and Guinan stuff is the best part of the episode (and boy, those young actresses really got the characters right!). It was a fun episode, and nowhere near the worst of TNG.
^ Heh! See? Thats what makes horseracing. I cannot STAND the stuff between kid Ro and kid Guinan! Too funny!
True Q, I like the Q related stories as they are usually funny and tests Picard and the crew to the limit but this one was flat and unamusing. It is one of those episodes you skip when watching the DVD's.
NO!!! Really??? You hate Rascals?? OMG, with lines like, "He's my number one dad!", and young Picard's "I want my father! I want my father" while stamping his feet and Riker giving the Ferengi the lesson on the ships computer??
Granted, the stuff between Ro and Guinan is cringeworthy...but i think the other stuff makes up for it. Definitely not on my 'worst' list....but.....
that's what makes horseracing!
It was a fun episode, and nowhere near the worst of TNG.
To each his own, Randi and DevilEyes. I despise that ep! IMHO, not even, "So bad it's good," like TOS's Way to Eden. A poster above hates Masks, but I really like that ep! -- RR
^ Absolutely! LIke i said, thats what makes horse racing! The world would be an amazingly boring place if we all liked the same things!
Other. I went with "Up the Long Ladder", my preferred punching bag because I find it really offensive in its treatment of Irishness. In addition to it being one of the sadly many awful episodes in the first two seasons.
Also "Frame of Mind" is one of my favourite episodes.
Also "Frame of Mind" is one of my favourite episodes.
The only thing good about Up the Long Ladder is the lovely red-head colonist Brenna Odell (Roslyn Landor) Riker ends up with. -- RR
Well, technically the clones weren't fully "formed" yet, so it's more like they had abortions. They were both violated, and so felt justified. There's a whole parallel to rape going on in the subtext of that episode.
There actually were some interesting ideas going on in the ep, which is why on second viewing I find it more tollerable. Yes, the Irish are cringeworthy, but no more so than anything else that made you cringe in S1. It was also the best Pulaski episode of the season, showing that she was actually a pretty smart cookie, and not just an akward possible love interest for Picard.
Compared to VOV:Threshold?
Other – "A Night in Sickbay." It's not TNG, you say? Well it still wins.
NOT sure if its ANIS or Threshold but still DOWN there
Really? He couldn't have gone down to his local community theatre instead of filling up the airwaves with one of Trek's silliest outings?
Also, I kind of liked "Imaginary Friend."
And yet it's illegal under Bajoran law. Bajorans = Republicans?
But seriously, it's a pretty terrible allegory for abortion, to have fully formed humans sitting in tanks waiting to come to life. I mean, that's the kind of imagery pro-life people would actually use to scare people away from abortion. It's also not really analogous from a legal standpoint, when neither Riker nor Pulaski are expected to have anything to do with these clones, beyond providing the raw genetic material--let alone carry them to term, deal with the health risks of that, or deal with the problems of raising them (how do you raise a biologically 50 year old body anyway? its cognitive abilities would be all messed up). The only interest really invaded, the privacy interest, isn't a really compelling one, in my view.
The writer might as well have said that it's permissible to kill your identical twin.
On the plus side, it means it might have been legal for Picard to just phaser Shinzon to death in the first act. I think we'd all have enjoyed that.
It's already been said, but I'll say it again. "Justice" could have killed off Wesley and saved us all the horror, therefore it is the worst!
Some of my thoughts on other things TNG:
WORST OVERALL MOMENT: "Thine Own Self" - Great episode for the most part, except for the moment when Troi is promoted to Commander. Seriously?! Troi gets a promotion and Data spends the whole series and all the TNG movies as a Lt. Commander?! Talk about nonsense! At this point, every character besides Data has either been given or at least offered a promotion.
MOST OVER-RATED EPISODE: "The Inner Light" - A solid hit for the series and for Patrick Stewart as an actor. But come on, seriously, this isn't "Hamlet!" There are many more better episodes.
MOST UNDER-RATED EPISODE: "Masks" - Okay, it's kinda silly and the plot is rather corny. But, Brent Spiner makes this episode work with some amazing acting.
MOST NON-SENSICAL EPISODE: tie - "Birthright, Part I" and "Birthright, Part II" - Why is this a two-parter? The Data storyline could have been expanded to fill a stand-alone episode. The Worf storyline could have been compressed to fill another stand-alone episode. The only thing connecting them is the rather weak and under-used theme of "fatherhood."
BEST OVERALL MOMENT: Picard out-flanks Commander Tomalak in "The Defector." When those Birds-of-Prey decloaked and the Klingon Theme started playing... THAT WAS AWESOME!
Some of my thoughts on other things TNG:
WORST OVERALL MOMENT: "Thine Own Self" - Great episode for the most part, except for the moment when Troi is promoted to Commander. Seriously?! Troi gets a promotion and Data spends the whole series and all the TNG movies as a Lt. Commander?! Talk about nonsense! At this point, every character besides Data has either been given or at least offered a promotion.
MOST OVER-RATED EPISODE: "The Inner Light" - A solid hit for the series and for Patrick Stewart as an actor. But come on, seriously, this isn't "Hamlet!" There are many more better episodes.
MOST UNDER-RATED EPISODE: "Masks" - Okay, it's kinda silly and the plot is rather corny. But, Brent Spiner makes this episode work with some amazing acting.
MOST NON-SENSICAL EPISODE: tie - "Birthright, Part I" and "Birthright, Part II" - Why is this a two-parter? The Data storyline could have been expanded to fill a stand-alone episode. The Worf storyline could have been compressed to fill another stand-alone episode. The only thing connecting them is the rather weak and under-used theme of "fatherhood."
BEST OVERALL MOMENT: Picard out-flanks Commander Tomalak in "The Defector." When those Birds-of-Prey decloaked and the Klingon Theme started playing... THAT WAS AWESOME!
Not to get into a whole another issue, but if that was the intended analogy, that's still absurd. The arguments for having an abortion are usually not being ready to have a child, or able to look after one. Whatever one thinks of the rights or wrongs there, it's hardly a similar situation.
Though that cringeworthy stuff isn't stuff I'd find personally offensive (yes "Code of Honor" is offensive, but not to me personally). Subjective value judgment etc. I really can't stress enough how racist this episode is.
I've always felt so as well. It pretty much distances the ideas of abortion from those which can be used in favour of a pro-choice stance - these are fully grown human beings who didn't grow in your body and are rather obviously 'persons'. So to write that scenario and still present the pro-choice action as the correct one... well, it's ballsy, I'll give Melinda Snodgrass that. I sort of appreciate the guts in stacking the deck against your argument (most moralistic tales will do the reverse) but I honestly doubt if that was even intentional. Rather than a provocative ethical statement the scenario smacks of not having been thought out that well.
I've got a sort of funny attitude towars Snodgrass, considering she wrote my most hated episode of Trek and my favourite episode of TNG ("The Measure of a Man", which, appropriately enough, explores the ethical quandry of its scenario a mite better), but one digresses.
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