I've not seen these, but some sound at least funny in a "Plan 9" sort of way.
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I've not seen these, but some sound at least funny in a "Plan 9" sort of way.
I liked it, It the only "Christmas" ep. Trek has ever done.Okay I’ve got to say that I’m surprised that we’ve only had about two mentions for what I consider the worst episode in all Trek.
11:59 didn’t have bad science it had no science, it didn’t have fake impostor crew members it had no crew, it didn’t mess with the established universe and rules of the Trek reality it had no bearing on it whatsoever, it didn’t seem to have an actual story to it and what I can guess is the moral of the episode is just stupid.
First off this woman is Janeways inspiration for joining Starfleet yet she doesn’t seem to have ever picked up a simply history book on this woman and it falls to Paris to point out that there was no Janeways’ on the Mars missions.
So we spend over half the episode in the year 2000 as we see Kate Mulgrew, of course looking the same as future Kathryn Janeway ‘cept with a different hair style crash her car fall in love with some random guy then convince him to leave his bookshop so they can build ‘The Millennium Gate’. What this ‘Gate’ is we’re never told but if it’s anything like the Millennium dome then we should have just stook with the bookshop. Hell it was probably just a big statue or some shopping mall so we should have stuck with the bookshop anyway.
The whole episode felt like I’d missed Voyager and tuned into some daytime movie they show on channel 5 over here.
The point was the power of family.
Shannon O'Donnell wouldn't settle down, until she found a husband. Henry Janeway couldn't move forward until he found a new wife. It didn't matter if the stories Capt. Janeway were told were true or not, it was the inspiration from her family history that caused her to be what she became. It took her Voyager family to get to understand it. So everybody got a new family going into the new year.
So no, it wasn't about science or space or any of that bullshit.
It's about what Trek really is, it's about people.
It's also in part about history.
May things were are taught about the great people in history have been proven to be false. That still didn't change the inspiration they caused to affect change in how we live today.
That's the entire ep. in a nut shell.
I don't mind an episode without exlposions and shoot outs, I wouldn't even mind a sci-fi light ep. For me I was annoyed because A) we had characters so distnatly related to our cast that it might as well be another show and two the romantic famaily thing didn't really make that much sense. Sure they got together and I was happy for 'em but as I said it felt like they were closing down a nice cozy bookshop where this man has lived ahppily all his life for some glorified shopping mall or just some really big gate. That to me says forget history forget stories were gonna build a really big gate, for some reason. Maybe this is affected by the shambles that the millenium dome became (I don't think I saw this till after 2k). It also for a episode about 2k didn't seem to look forward, either on Voyager or in the past where they bump into each other and then do it again repeatedly. I didn't get a feel for any of the characters in the past and the crew itself seem mostly by the by. The bes part of the episode for me was hearing about some of the mars projects, the idea of one man flying out to another planet, finding it wasn't there for some reason and just turning round and going back without bothering to disturb anyone sounds like it would have made a better story. In fact the episode where they find an old mars rover might have made a better 2k ep than this, talk about all the cool stuff we're going to be getting up to this millenium, just don't mention the eugenics war, or the third world war and all that other depressing stuff.
God I have gone on a bit haven't i
...Course: Oblivion? Really?
I'm really ashamed now. I'm not a big Voyager fan, but Course: Oblivion is one of my favorite Star Trek episodes ever.
I'm really ashamed now. I'm not a big Voyager fan, but Course: Oblivion is one of my favorite Star Trek episodes ever.
"Inner Light" had nothing to do with any of the cast and barely was sci-fi but yet it's a big favorite. It's just about family.I liked it, It the only "Christmas" ep. Trek has ever done.
11:59 didn’t have bad science it had no science, it didn’t have fake impostor crew members it had no crew, it didn’t mess with the established universe and rules of the Trek reality it had no bearing on it whatsoever, it didn’t seem to have an actual story to it and what I can guess is the moral of the episode is just stupid.
First off this woman is Janeways inspiration for joining Starfleet yet she doesn’t seem to have ever picked up a simply history book on this woman and it falls to Paris to point out that there was no Janeways’ on the Mars missions.
So we spend over half the episode in the year 2000 as we see Kate Mulgrew, of course looking the same as future Kathryn Janeway ‘cept with a different hair style crash her car fall in love with some random guy then convince him to leave his bookshop so they can build ‘The Millennium Gate’. What this ‘Gate’ is we’re never told but if it’s anything like the Millennium dome then we should have just stook with the bookshop. Hell it was probably just a big statue or some shopping mall so we should have stuck with the bookshop anyway.
The whole episode felt like I’d missed Voyager and tuned into some daytime movie they show on channel 5 over here.
The point was the power of family.
Shannon O'Donnell wouldn't settle down, until she found a husband. Henry Janeway couldn't move forward until he found a new wife. It didn't matter if the stories Capt. Janeway were told were true or not, it was the inspiration from her family history that caused her to be what she became. It took her Voyager family to get to understand it. So everybody got a new family going into the new year.
So no, it wasn't about science or space or any of that bullshit.
It's about what Trek really is, it's about people.
It's also in part about history.
May things were are taught about the great people in history have been proven to be false. That still didn't change the inspiration they caused to affect change in how we live today.
That's the entire ep. in a nut shell.
I don't mind an episode without exlposions and shoot outs, I wouldn't even mind a sci-fi light ep. For me I was annoyed because A) we had characters so distnatly related to our cast that it might as well be another show and two the romantic famaily thing didn't really make that much sense. Sure they got together and I was happy for 'em but as I said it felt like they were closing down a nice cozy bookshop where this man has lived ahppily all his life for some glorified shopping mall or just some really big gate. That to me says forget history forget stories were gonna build a really big gate, for some reason. Maybe this is affected by the shambles that the millenium dome became (I don't think I saw this till after 2k). It also for a episode about 2k didn't seem to look forward, either on Voyager or in the past where they bump into each other and then do it again repeatedly. I didn't get a feel for any of the characters in the past and the crew itself seem mostly by the by. The bes part of the episode for me was hearing about some of the mars projects, the idea of one man flying out to another planet, finding it wasn't there for some reason and just turning round and going back without bothering to disturb anyone sounds like it would have made a better story. In fact the episode where they find an old mars rover might have made a better 2k ep than this, talk about all the cool stuff we're going to be getting up to this millenium, just don't mention the eugenics war, or the third world war and all that other depressing stuff.
God I have gone on a bit haven't i
"11:59" isn't about really looking forward more as it is about not taking for granted what we all have now. Shannon, Henry & even Janeway were all too busy stuck on themselves that they all almost missed and took for granted what they had around them all along, people that cared.
I guess it depends on what each of us expects to get out of shows like this.
Am I the only guy that thinks Threshold is almost 'so bad its awesome'?
No, I completely agree. A classic.
I voted "other" as I actually just finished the whole Voyager series and therefore...I have to say "Endgame" is the worst! I was quite disappointed by this ending and Im still trying to cope. Im sure there's already plenty of discussion about this on the forum so I'm not going to get too much into it. I will just say that it felt like a big mix of confetti that was fired with some type of new ultra-secret weapon so that you didnt know what actually hit you....and after a while you realize that weapon wasnt so new after all. Anyhow, since I had spread out the whole process of watching the complete series (which took me about a year), a lot of the older episodes are not fresh in my memory so my vote may not be a fair one. I do remember that I didnt like any of the phage stuff and the Captain Proton episodes didnt really appeal to me either - although they were somewhat humorous. The Irish village eps were ok and everything that focused on Seven was awesome. ;-) Well, except where she hooked up with Chakotay for real, that didnt make any sense in such a short span of time.
Agreed--I still have PTSD from the Endgame and have lost much of my enthusiasm and respect for the series.
I try to remain tolerant of all new experiences, but I digress--Threshold and Spirit Folk is a direct insult to every 'serious' Trekkie.