It would be far more tempting for a twin to try something to depose his brother and take his place because of the resemblance. As for whom gets the throne, it definitely mattered a lot for the one who was going to be king. between the 12th century and the 16th (a troubled era), a great many pretendants to the throne were either poisoned, executed, or exiled for different reasons (mostly pretexts). Being the king of France was a highly disputed position and in a relatively small amount of time, many kings succeeded on that throne (Games Of Throne was right at least in that respect). Being a king was apparently a rewarding position but it was a dangerous one as well.
Worst Character Assassination Episodes
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It would be far more tempting for a twin to try something to depose his brother and take his place because of the resemblance. As for whom gets the throne, it definitely mattered a lot for the one who was going to be king. between the 12th century and the 16th (a troubled era), a great many pretendants to the throne were either poisoned, executed, or exiled for different reasons (mostly pretexts). Being the king of France was a highly disputed position and in a relatively small amount of time, many kings succeeded on that throne (Games Of Throne was right at least in that respect). Being a king was apparently a rewarding position but it was a dangerous one as well.
I’m not going to quibble with you or play word games. Several staff across several forums have observed the same thing. So you’re on notice: knock it off.
And please don’t derail this thread any further.
Moving on.
You've proved that there were gazettes read by a select few, sometimes with illustrations as well. But what you've failed to prove (with all due respect) is that nad any incidence on people's faces being known throughout the country.
If you put an iron mask on someone, that can be for only one reason, it's that you don't want them to be recognized. But if you're the king, you're entitled to put ANYONE in the realm behind bars without justification (including counts and dukes) with a "lettre de cachet"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lettres_de_cachet
So why would you care if someone was recognized? The only plausible explanation is that it must be someone with powers, someone with a lot of sympathizers, but that you don't dare to execute.
How many people fit that description?
You are not telling me anything new with this. Fact is that dynasties liked to have spare heirs and that any idea of the Man in the Iron Mask being the twin of the King is just romantic hogwash.
The king was an absolute ruler. The only thing that mattered while he was alive was his WILL not the will of his dynasty. Kings were known to have people killed for even being remotely suspected of conspiring against them and even then they still managed to get themselves assassinated at an early stage (sometimes mere months after having being crowned.). As I said it was a dangerous position. Many times the heir to the throne was killed in their infancy, as a baby even. Where do you think the fictions get their inspiration from?
I've already told you once before...you are unnecessarily hostile. Dial it back.
You post an awful lot too. Something like 1,000 posts a month since you started. Maybe slow down, or take a break from the board once in a while. Might help.
He started in March and he's already a Commodore.
I've been here for almost two years and I'm still a Fleet Captain.
?????
Rank goes up by post count.
You post a lot, so your rank is higher than many people who have been here longer.
No, my question was about why does that bother that poster so much?
It's an odd thing to be preoccupied about.
People notice outliers. But you can discuss that somewhere else…
Now back to Star Trek…
Ok, the last episode of DS9 I watched definitely qualifies as a character assassination one, IE Life Support:
I mean look at Nog, he behaves like a perfect jerk, and then you have Sisko bending over backward to justify it.
The problem is we've seen Nog previously with a girl and he was NOTHING like that. In fact, he was pretty normal, if a bit shy. So what happened?
Plus the explanation that it's Ferengi dating practices is pure bullshit since the Ferengi CAN'T date on their homeworld. The females aren't allowed to go out of their homes nor to talk to strangers. So the only possible thing is for the wedding to be a business transaction where the male purchases the female.
So Nog just acted like a total jerk for no reason. Only to create a very artificial character mangling plot point.
That episode sucks.
Bashir is a short-sighted imbecile without ethics The drug he proposed to Bareil is completely unethical as Beverly would definitely have said. I mean she was against a dangerous procedure even if there were no alternative from Worf's point of view except death. You bet that she would have been against proposing a drug to someone that would eventually destroy his internal organs.
That episode sucks... big time!!!
I mean look at Nog, he behaves like a perfect jerk, and then you have Sisko bending over backward to justify it.
The problem is we've seen Nog previously with a girl and he was NOTHING like that. In fact, he was pretty normal, if a bit shy. So what happened?
Plus the explanation that it's Ferengi dating practices is pure bullshit since the Ferengi CAN'T date on their homeworld. The females aren't allowed to go out of their homes nor to talk to strangers. So the only possible thing is for the wedding to be a business transaction where the male purchases the female.
So Nog just acted like a total jerk for no reason. Only to create a very artificial character mangling plot point.
That episode sucks.
Bashir is a short-sighted imbecile without ethics The drug he proposed to Bareil is completely unethical as Beverly would definitely have said. I mean she was against a dangerous procedure even if there were no alternative from Worf's point of view except death. You bet that she would have been against proposing a drug to someone that would eventually destroy his internal organs.
That episode sucks... big time!!!
One might argue that rather than character assassination that's character development. We've seen Data defend his own rights as an AI before, but now we're seeing how far he's willing to go to defend the rights of other possibly-sentient AIs.
Interesting to consider what might have happened if in "Tuvix" the EMH not only refused to perform the procedure but also refused to share any data (no pun intended) regarding the procedure.
In that regard, one might argue that "Descent Pt. II" is character assassination as Data doesn't appear to feel that Lore is entitled to due process (unless we assume that Data later reactivates Lore so he can stand trial).
Life-Support is in essence an anti-Data episode; Bareil is left to die because Bashir decided that his part positronic brain made him not enough of a man to deserve to live. Basically to Bashir a part positronic brain made you just a machine, without the "spark of life" as he put it.
I guess Bashir is one of the people who would have decided that Data is not a lifeform.
I'm not sure it's a valid analogy to compare a lifeform that originated as an android with one that was gradually being turned into one and (arguably) losing parts of itself in the process.
I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying I'm not sure.
But, as a more accessible example, if I was involuntarily transformed into a woman, I would feel that a part of myself had been lost and that I was no longer who I really was...no puns intended.
I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying I'm not sure.
But, as a more accessible example, if I was involuntarily transformed into a woman, I would feel that a part of myself had been lost and that I was no longer who I really was...no puns intended.
The joke falls apart when you put any kind of serious thought into it. Yes, Deanna was sitting at the helm when the saucer crashed in Generations. But that's all she was doing, sitting there. The saucer was knocked into the planet's atmosphere by an antimatter explosion that knocked the propulsion systems offline. So what was she supposed to do to prevent the crash?
Yes, Deanna was sitting at the helm when the Enterprise rammed into the Scimitar in Nemesis, but Picard ordered her to ram the Enterprise into the Scimitar. So how is that in any way her fault?
Ok, if you were transformed into a woman would you rather be dead? Because that's what this episode is all about become something different or cease to exist.
I'll let you know when it happens.
You know this film shows an ignorance of elementary mechanics that is truly deplorable. When two cars crash into one another at say a hundred kilometers per hour, the energy of the shock fuses the cars together, creating an autogenous weld. And then the two cars are like siamese impossible to separate without using cutting tools.
It's likely that the two starships crashing into one another would be similarly welded.
Sometimes I wonder how Star Trek would be like if they DIDN'T have scientific advisors.
