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Worst and Best Villains...

Great choice, Bad Thoughts.

"THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE" is one of my favorite episodes in the franchise. It had it all... great action sequences, superb casting choice with William Windom, great drama between Decker and Spock, and rising action all the way through. It was a great rollercoaster ride from start to finish. This is an episode to start someone on if they have never seen STAR TREK.
 
Star Trek has never been very good with the villains. So it's kind of hard to pick a good one.

Khan wasn't a good villain. He was a great performance.
Same for Winn and Fem Founder.
Dukat, Q, and Seska weren't villains so much as they were antagonistic foils. Dukat was more classic villainy in the last season, but, by then, he was also a joke.
The Borg have always been a great concept with endless potential, but it was never tapped into.
Chang was too ridiculous to ever take seriously. (And such a waste of talent.)

Honestly, if I had to pick one, I'd go with Kruge. He was sinister and treacherous but not too cliche in an over-the-top cartoony way, cunning and resourceful, and, in the end, he kinda had a point.

As far as worst, there's a lot to choose from, but I don't think it gets any worse than Ru'afo. Once again, a waste of a great actor (and a really great makeup design), but seriously what was the point, besides reducing the already lame revenge plot to its lowest common denominator?
 
Best: Chang, Krall, Dukat, Weyoun, Romulan Commander (BoT), Seska

Worst: Shinzon. Shinzon 20 more times. Soran, Rualfo, Klaa, Malik, Vosk, Rao Vantika, Janice Lester
 
Great choice, Bad Thoughts.

"THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE" is one of my favorite episodes in the franchise. It had it all... great action sequences, superb casting choice with William Windom,
great drama between Decker and Spock, and rising action all the way through. It was a great rollercoaster ride from start to finish. This is an episode to start someone on if they have never seen STAR TREK.

I agree it's really a classic! in more ways than one. William Windom's performance is spotless.

And yes the villain in that one is the machine, a great villain.
 
Star Trek has never been very good with the villains. So it's kind of hard to pick a good one.

I'd argue that one of the great things about Trek is there are few true villains, but many antagonists. Basically the baddies typically do evil things not because they are bad people, but because they have goals which come into conflict with those of the crew and/or Federation.

Indeed, moral relativism is to some extent foundational to the Trek universe.
 
I'd argue that one of the great things about Trek is there are few true villains, but many antagonists. Basically the baddies typically do evil things not because they are bad people, but because they have goals which come into conflict with those of the crew and/or Federation.

Indeed, moral relativism is to some extent foundational to the Trek universe.

I'd argue that that's always how villains think/talk of themselves, IE not as bad people but as people who have goals that conflict with the goals of everyone else. In movies, like the James Bond series, for example, it's typically people who think they'll create a better world, usually by killing everyone that doesn't fit in that new world.
 
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Doctor Chaotica and Lonzak.

I am not sure if they qualify as ST villains. In a way they could be seen as Voyager's response to TNG's Professor Moriarty but not quite since Moriarty was aware that he was a holodeck character and Chaotica never was.
 
Props to Kashyk for being great on VOY -- he really surprised and should have been utilized again, even though his name was too similar to Star Wars's Kashyyyk (I'm guessing homage). I wasn't a big fan of the show, but he worked for me. You knew he was a villain yet he walked the high wire well enough that the tension remained throughout the episode -- like Gul Macet in TNG's "The Wounded."

One of the worst has to be Shinzon. It was a later, weightier, role than Klaa, and, for me, sunk louder.
 
Props to Kashyk for being great on VOY -- he really surprised and should have been utilized again, even though his name was too similar to Star Wars's Kashyyyk (I'm guessing homage). I wasn't a big fan of the show, but he worked for me. You knew he was a villain yet he walked the high wire well enough that the tension remained throughout the episode -- like Gul Macet in TNG's "The Wounded."....

It's a pity that the actor who plays Kashyk only gets small or temporary parts. I don't remember seeing him as a recurrent character in anything.
 
It's a pity that the actor who plays Kashyk only gets small or temporary parts. I don't remember seeing him as a recurrent character in anything.

Yeah, he was good on The Big Bang Theory, but his character just kinda...stopped...

:shrug:
 
Best
TOS...Trelane Oh Come on! William Campbell (Great as Koloth too!) Oh alright Khan then.
TNG ...Q. Purely for John Delancey
DS9... Kai Wynn. Deliciously nasty!
Enterprise... Shran Vilain yay or nay? great portrayal by the actor.
Voyager...Janeway...Really!
Movies... Soran, Malcolm Mc Dowell.Say no more. Maybe Ahdar Ru'afo in Insurrection though!
Discovery....so far L'Rell Really means it she does!

Worst.
TOS...The aliens in Gamesters of Triskelian.
TNG...Professor Moriarty. Lame!
DS9...Female shape shifter. Just mooches about the place.
Enterprise...Future shadow guy. Sigh!
Voyager... The Sponge Heeds sorry, Kazon.
Movies... Shinzon in Nemesis.Proper tw@...wants spanking and put to bed.
Discovery...Watch this space...
 
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