Worf;s First Command, What will it be ?

[DumbDumb2007]

What will Worf's First regular Command be ? ( apart from commanding te Defiant on specific short term assignments,
Who agrees it would be an Interpid Class Starship meant for getting into tough situations.........

 

[misskim86]

I don't see Worf as a captain, he's the kind of guy who's a great 2nd guy but far too impulsive to be a Federation Captain

 

[cultcross]

Worf as a captain or leader was dealt with a bit in DS9 - Rules of Engagement, Change of Heart - the general conclusion being he's not level headed enough for command in the Federation's eye, and follows his heart too much. I think this may be why he moved on in What You Leave Behind - his Starfleet career had plateaued.

 

[Malleus]

NCC-1701-E

 

[Mirror_Barclay]

"Open fire!"

Sorry, had to.

 

[CaptainStoner]

U.S.S. Merry Man

 

[Ezri]

cultcross said:
Worf as a captain or leader was dealt with a bit in DS9 - Rules of Engagement, Change of Heart - the general conclusion being he's not level headed enough for command in the Federation's eye, and follows his heart too much. I think this may be why he moved on in What You Leave Behind - his Starfleet career had plateaued.

Back you 100%

 

[greenmystik]

^ I agree also, but if he were to get a command I think they would give him a Akira class or another frigate or battleship type.

 

[Gkar]

^I agree 150% with the comments in regards to change of heart and what you leave behind.
but...
if he did get a command of his own I still think he should get the Defiant. I believe that ship suits his character so well.

 

[JayTheTrekkie]

I'm not sure if Worf will ever become a Captian but as a full commander/first officer on a ship he would be able to do. Remember that Worf stated to Dax that he had made many mistakes in his starfleet career and Sisko stated to Worf that Worf might not be able to have his own command at all. I don't think he will anyways unless starfleet decides to let him give it a try for a few months starting with a small ship first (such as the Defiant or one of the medium size class ships such as the Intrepid Class)

 

[USS Excelsior]

He would probably be better of commanding a Klingon ship.

Come to think of it we see the other bridge officers taking command from time to time, but I don't really recall any times that Worf was put in command.

There was that one time in Time Arrow when he would have been in command while the rest of the bridge crew was in the 19th Century, but we didn't see him in command and plsu the ship would have just been sitting there waiting for them to come back.

 

[jimbo1973]

I agree with the general veiw..I like Worf, but with the mistakes he's made in his career, I don't see him as a real Captain of a ship.

 

[Malleus]

^^^ Picard may yet digress, though.

 

[Nathan_Heller]

In the post-Nemesis non-canon novels he is First Officer of the Enterprise E. He was uncomfortable at first, but he grew into it.

 

[Malleus]

^^^ That's exactly what I was referring to.

Notwithstanding the very early TNG episode where Picard grants Worf command of his ship to dissuade a Klingon "sleeper" ship from its rogue activities, the movies indicate that Picard has more confidence in Worf's abilities than Sisko ever did, especially when the former acquiesced to the latter's "self-destruct" suggestion in First Contact. Also, that the latter was tardy in Insurrection was of no consequence to the former.

 

[Huntingdon]

Being tardy is slightly different from abandoning an important wartime mission and from firing on an unarmed civilian ship, which are the things Sisko had to judge him on. They're also the items that Starfleet will judge him on when assessing suitability for captaincy.

If desperate they might overlook the latter because it was set up, but the abandoned mission is very unlikely to be ignored.

 

[Timo]

I don't think they would hold "Rules of Engagement" against Worf in any case. Starfleet as an organization did not seem to find any fault in what Worf did, even if some individual Starfleet personnel under goading from the Klingon prosecutor were fooled into speaking somewhat against Worf.

Quite probably, the idea behind the Klingon plot in "Rules of Engagement" wasn't that Worf had done something wrong. The idea was that Starfleet would automatically consider Worf's actions defensible, which would make Starfleet look really bad in Klingon and possible neutral eyes. Which is exactly what happened: Starfleet considered Worf's actions proper, and the Empire got the outrage it wanted.

As both sides walked out of that incident as "moral winners", I don't think Starfleet would have anything but warm feelings towards Worf afterwards. Sisko's personal feelings are a different matter.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Malleus]

Timo said:

Quite probably, the idea behind the Klingon plot in "Rules of Engagement" wasn't that Worf had done something wrong. The idea was that Starfleet would automatically consider Worf's actions defensible, which would make Starfleet look really bad in Klingon and possible neutral eyes. Which is exactly what happened: Starfleet considered Worf's actions proper, and the Empire got the outrage it wanted.

As both sides walked out of that incident as "moral winners", I don't think Starfleet would have anything but warm feelings towards Worf afterwards. Sisko's personal feelings are a different matter.

Timo Saloniemi

Wasn't the purpose of the setup to actually GET Worf and axe him out of political motivations (Gowron)?

 

[Timo]

That's what the Klingons claimed, and what Sisko thought. But it would never have worked, and it would not have benefited the Klingons in any way.

Far more likely is that the Klingons based their whole plot on the certainty that Worf would never be extradited. They could then discredit the Federation for defending a criminal and thus bolster Klingon national unity, at a time when Gowron was still testing his legs as leader and warmaster.

And the plot that Sisko attributed to the Klingons would never have made an ounce of sense. The trial's outcome would never have affected the Federation supply runs to the Cardassians, because we were told that Worf had been ambushed on the second-to-last of those runs! Just look at Ch'pok's expression when Sisko sprouts his utter nonsense...

If Gowron really wanted to get Worf, he could simply have asked Ch'pok to assassinate him.

The writers really dropped the ball here. Good thing they have us nitpickers to pick it up for them.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Malleus]

Timo said:
The trial's outcome would never have affected the Federation supply runs to the Cardassians, because we were told that Worf had been ambushed on the second-to-last of those runs!

...

The writers really dropped the ball here. Good thing they have us nitpickers to pick it up for them.

Timo Saloniemi

Nitpicking indeed! :thumbsup:

[So much for Nazi U-boat equivalents...]