Woman Kickboxer Dies After Tournament Knockout.

[Angela 0077]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/7937286/woman-kickboxer-dies-after-tournament-knockout

This is really sad.

They say she got up after being hit in the head and then she colapsed again.
I know my brother used to do abit of boxing and he was told by a doctor that he had to stop because of so many blows to the head.
Even if you are wearing head gear we really do not know the damage that can be caused wearing the gear or not.
I am not sure if she was using any protection when she had her kickboxing match.
There is a clip but there is not much in it so l would by pass that and read the acticle.

 

[Jetfire]

I think with the advent of video games actually watching real people beat each other up...is pretty dumb. I think in various martial arts there is a system where points are scored without one being beaten badly...but still.

 

[Hermiod]

It's not sad, she knew the risks and took them anyway. It's was her choice as an adult.

A competent referee will stop a fight when it's clear that one opponent is unable to defend him or herself adequately.

 

[Amaris]

It's not sad

What? Of course it's sad! Why wouldn't it be sad when a young woman dies? Why isn't it sad when a young athlete's life is extinguished? What did she ever do to you to deserve such cold hearted callousness? Do you not approve of her actions? Seriously, what did she do to be deigned irrelevant and inconsequential by you, Hermiod?

she knew the risks and took them anyway. It's was her choice as an adult.

Do you feel the same way about Police officers? Firefighters? Soldiers? Does it make it okay as long as they died knowing there was a possibility that it might happen? Do the families of those fallen say "We miss Daddy/Mommy but those are the breaks, ya know?"

A competent referee will stop a fight when it's clear that one opponent is unable to defend him or herself adequately.

That is neither here nor there.

 

[Hermiod]

What? Of course it's sad! Why wouldn't it be sad when a young woman dies? Why isn't it sad when a young athlete's life is extinguished? What did she ever do to you to deserve such cold hearted callousness? Do you not approve of her actions? Seriously, what did she do to be deigned irrelevant and inconsequential by you, Hermiod?

She chose to partake in a dangerous sport through her own free will. It's not my place to approve or disapprove of what she did with her own life.

Do you feel the same way about Police officers? Firefighters? Soldiers? Does it make it okay as long as they died knowing there was a possibility that it might happen? Do the families of those fallen say "We miss Daddy/Mommy but those are the breaks, ya know?"

Police officers, firefighters, and especially soldiers and so on do what they do in order to help others.

That is neither here nor there.

I was answering Jetfire's point.

 

[Amaris]

She chose to partake in a dangerous sport through her own free will. It's not my place to approve or disapprove of what she did with her own life.

You certainly feel it's your right to tell people it's not sad that this young woman died. She doesn't need your approval or disapproval, in fact, she doesn't need anything now, because she's dead. She won't inconvenience you with her free will any more.

So it's only sad if the cause of death is from a vocation or event of which you approve. Police officer dies in the line of duty, it's sad. Girl riding a roller coaster and dies of a freak heart attack, her fault for riding it, she knew the risks. Firefighter runs into a burning building and dies it's sad, young female kickboxer gets struck in a way that causes her to die mere hours later, that's her fault she knew the risks.

It's just .

 

[Jetfire]

All life is precious no matter our feelings for the individuals...death shouldn't be taken lightly.

 

[Hermiod]

You certainly feel it's your right to tell people it's not sad that this young woman died. She doesn't need your approval or disapproval, in fact, she doesn't need anything now, because she's dead. She won't inconvenience you with her free will any more.

So it's only sad if the cause of death is from a vocation or event of which you approve. Police officer dies in the line of duty, it's sad. Girl riding a roller coaster and dies of a freak heart attack, her fault for riding it, she knew the risks. Firefighter runs into a burning building and dies it's sad, young female kickboxer gets struck in a way that causes her to die mere hours later, that's her fault she knew the risks.

It's just .

You know what, you yourself are just

I'm not going to sit here and put up with another one of your sermons on morality. These people all died this month and those are just the 'notable' ones. Where are the threads on each and every one of them ?

 

[Pingfah]

I think with the advent of video games actually watching real people beat each other up...is pretty dumb. I think in various martial arts there is a system where points are scored without one being beaten badly...but still.

What do video games have to do with it? They aren't a replacement for athletic competition in any way.

 

[Jetfire]

I think with the advent of video games actually watching real people beat each other up...is pretty dumb. I think in various martial arts there is a system where points are scored without one being beaten badly...but still.

What do video games have to do with it? They aren't a replacement for athletic competition in any way.

You missed my point.

And in many ways...they are.

 

[Hoser]

So young, so beautiful, so full of life. That's so sad.

 

[Pingfah]

I think with the advent of video games actually watching real people beat each other up...is pretty dumb. I think in various martial arts there is a system where points are scored without one being beaten badly...but still.

What do video games have to do with it? They aren't a replacement for athletic competition in any way.

You missed my point.

And in many ways...they are.

Erm no, in no way does waggling a joystick to make two fake characters hit each other constitute a replacement for a fight.

And I didn't miss your point, I chose to focus on a part of it that made no sense.

 

[Jetfire]

What do video games have to do with it? They aren't a replacement for athletic competition in any way.

You missed my point.

And in many ways...they are.

Erm no, in no way does waggling a joystick to make two fake characters hit each other constitute a replacement for a fight.

And I didn't miss your point, I chose to focus on a part of it that made no sense.

Fine, I made no sense thank you for pointing that out.

 

[Dream]

Angela 0077, you need to start posting some good news for once.

Poor man wins one million dollars!

Trek geek marries supermodel!

Obama reveals the existance of aliens to the world!

 

[Amaris]

You certainly feel it's your right to tell people it's not sad that this young woman died. She doesn't need your approval or disapproval, in fact, she doesn't need anything now, because she's dead. She won't inconvenience you with her free will any more.

So it's only sad if the cause of death is from a vocation or event of which you approve. Police officer dies in the line of duty, it's sad. Girl riding a roller coaster and dies of a freak heart attack, her fault for riding it, she knew the risks. Firefighter runs into a burning building and dies it's sad, young female kickboxer gets struck in a way that causes her to die mere hours later, that's her fault she knew the risks.

It's just .

You know what, you yourself are just

I'm not going to sit here and put up with another one of your sermons on morality. These people all died this month and those are just the 'notable' ones. Where are the threads on each and every one of them ?

Any thoughtful, sensible person knows you cannot comment on every single death, it would be impossible. So we discuss ones that pop up in the news. It becomes, in a sense, an aggregate, a general commentary on death and the young, as well as how death affects others. Surely you can understand how that would work, rather than bringing up a childish, ridiculous example of having to answer every death directly with a thread.

Don't talk to me about sermons, I'm not sermonizing, I'm wondering why you find it so difficult to understand that people feel sad over the death of a young person. "It's not sad" is what we're discussing. You make such a declarative statement, as if it should be so obvious, and then you follow it up with reasons totally lacking in empathy as to why "it's not sad". Feeling sadness over someone's death is a natural human reaction. You bypassed that completely and put the fault directly on her. It's cold, and it's lacking in compassion. It's downright detestable, in a sense, because there wasn't even a moment of reflection, just a summary judgment against her because you didn't approve of her choice of career.

 

[Hermiod]

^No, what we do is we all comment on Angela's daily 'look at this poor woman' thread.

I don't find the fact that other people think this is sad difficult to understand at all. I just don't happen to agree with them.

 

[Amaris]

^No, what we do is we all comment on Angela's daily 'look at this poor woman' thread.

You don't have to post if you don't like these threads.

I don't find the fact that other people think this is sad difficult to understand at all. I just don't happen to agree with them.

That's your prerogative, I just find your posts to be lacking in empathy, and human compassion, as if you resent the woman for something beyond her control.

 

[Hermiod]

^No, what we do is we all comment on Angela's daily 'look at this poor woman' thread.

You don't have to post if you don't like these threads.

And you don't have to reply or read a word I say if you don't like my posts.

That's your prerogative, I just find your posts to be lacking in empathy, and human compassion, as if you resent the woman for something beyond her control.

The only thing I resent here is being lectured on who I should and should not feel sorry for by people like you and Angela.

Any compassion I might have towards this person is slowly being eroded by Angela's daily parade of Bart's People.

 

[Amaris]

^No, what we do is we all comment on Angela's daily 'look at this poor woman' thread.

You don't have to post if you don't like these threads.

And you don't have to reply or read a word I say if you don't like my posts.

Sorry, I was just surprised by the lack of compassion and empathy, coupled with a summary cold judgment, and wanted to know how you could feel that way about an innocent woman's death, someone who didn't do anything to you whatsoever.

 

[Pingfah]

You missed my point.

And in many ways...they are.

Erm no, in no way does waggling a joystick to make two fake characters hit each other constitute a replacement for a fight.

And I didn't miss your point, I chose to focus on a part of it that made no sense.

Fine, I made no sense thank you for pointing that out.

Touchy!