Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Dream, May 26, 2011.
Probably because they see greater story potential using TLS.
I don't think Mangold ever said that. He did say that it wasn't an origin story. That is true. It's telling a different chapter of the character's life. It's meant to stand alone. But that's not the same as "ignoring" something. Logan appearing in WWII with bone claws shows that they're not ignoring it. As I understand it the Japan arc in the comics wasn't about the origins of Wolverine, so why would the movie version have been expected to cover that territory? You've been making this claim since Mangold was hired, when you somehow took claims that the film wouldn't be an amnesia-focused story as evidence that it was going to "ignore" Origins. But that similarly made no sense. The film not being an amnesia-focused story would just mean it's not trying to rehash that dynamic again. It's not, for example, suggesting Logan never had amnesia, which would be outright contradiction of X1 and X2; amnesia was part of Logan's story long before there ever was an Origins.
We don't know that Origins is being ignored.
We just know, as of now, that it's not being referenced.
Has anybody posted the longer international trailer that has popped up?
This looks awesome to me. I can't wait.
Holy Shit! WOW!
I have been excited about this for awhile. But this looks better than I was expecting. Its looks like a really good movie. Period. Not just a good X-men or Wolverine movie. But all around good movie
The notion of "ignoring" "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" I believe first originated with Aronofsky when he was still attached who stated that the film would be self contained and not reference anything from that movie.
Now I am partly being sarcastic with the "ignore" stuff and have been for quite some time, but I have read and been told that "X-Men Origins" will not be referenced or at the very least referenced very little in "The Wolverine". Obviously this could have changed during production and with re-writes, but for the most part I don't think this is the case.
That all aside, I'm really excited for this film, in fact it's increased.
The world would be a much better place if everyone ignored "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".
But at least now it looks like they have learned from the mistakes of Origins and we are now getting the Wolverine movie that we should have gotten in the first place.
The cinematography looks incredibly gorgeous.
Can someone explain why Origins cost 40 million more to make than "The Wolverine"? Why did the first one look so cheap?
Usually, big science fiction films that are irreparably saddled with development and production problems than those that don't. Though there is only a few years difference, Star Trek 5 cost a lot more to make than Aliens, and we know which one looks better.
I think part of it is this has a much better director. I have to look up who did the first one, but Mangold knows how to make good looking films regardless of budget.
Gavin Hood directed "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".
Hood's Tsotsi is meant to be a good film and Rendition also got fairly positive reviews. He's not a bad director by any means. Much of the fault for Wolverine can be laid at the door of Fox, with their constant interference.
Do we know if there is less interference for this movie compared to Origins?
^Can't say for sure but I haven't heard any rumours online to the same extent as were prevalent during the shooting of the previous movie. I think also that there's a new and more benevolent regime in place at Fox.
But we don't know that it totally wore off for him. It could be that he only retained a vestige of his former power and things stayed that way.
Empire break down the trailer with 36 'must-pause' moments.
One thing they point out is that when he gets shot he doesn't heal, but immediately after when he breaks out his claws no blood pours out.
Or it could be that it wears off completely, as you say we just don't know. All I mean is that the possibility is there, so it's not unreasonable for The Wolverine to discount the so-called cure. Whether they even address it at all remains to be seen.
Yes they have
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