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Wink of an eye

Rulius

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So just watched this again; pretty good episode if you ignore the fact the Scalosians should have long since burst into flames in a dense atmosphere. Anyway, at the end kirk and Spock beam them back down to the planet to their doom, they never even mentioned Spock had the cure. Kinda harsh dontcha think?;)
 
The Scalosians out and out murdered Compton (sp?), they were going to enslave the entire Enterprise crew. And the impression I took from the episode is that this isn't the first time the Scalosians enslaved a starship's crew, they might have done it several times.

I sorry, why would they be provided a cure?

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Rael, Deela's (apparent) second in command, slashed Compton, knowing that this minor damage would kill him him. Compton aged quickly and died.

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The Scalosians out and out murdered Compton (sp?), they were going to enslave the entire Enterprise crew. And the impression I took from the episode is that this isn't the first time the Scalosians enslaved a starship's crew, they might have done it several times.

I sorry, why would they be provided a cure?

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They helped the Kelvans who did far worse or at least as nasty things to the crew.
 
One wonders if Spock's cure would even have worked. With the vulnerability-to-wedgies thing, there seemed to be an issue with how long the victim has been subjected to the acceleration. Perhaps the cure, too, would only work on recently infected victims?

Timo Saloniemi
 
They helped the Kelvans who did far worse or at least as nasty things to the crew.
They dumped the Kelvans on the planet where they found them.

They dumped the Scalosians on the planet where they found them.

Difference?

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Well, in both cases, the handful of "survivors" would be left to suffer for the rest of their lives from the horrid effects of an unnatural woe that perverted their biological nature.

So the remaining difference would seem to be that the Kelvans brought the woe to themselves, while the Scalosians supposedly did not hyperaccelerate themselves deliberately. But apparently, that doesn't make Kirk think one would have forfeited the right to normal life less or more than the other when engaging in evilness.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Difference?:)
They left the Kelvans there to rebuild their society (now as humanoids) with the aid of the Federation. They left the Scalosians to die.
What aid of the Federation was offered? Other than to be placed on the planet upon which they were found. Kirk said a robot could be sent, but that ultimate decision was likely out of his hands.

But apparently, that doesn't make Kirk think one would have forfeited the right to normal life less or more than the other when engaging in evilness.
In both cases, they were left to their own devices.

It does seem likely that the Kelvans would fair better than the Scalosians. But while there was no promise of assistance from Kirk, Starfleet and the Federation, after reading Kirk's reports, may have extended aid to both, or one, or neither.

My impression is that the Scalosians were a long lived species, they had to be able to survive inbetween hapless ships, which couldn't have arrive too closely together. Every few decades, few centuries. In their accelerated state, the Scalosians would personally experience thousands of years of life.

If in their accelerated state, their lifespan lasted (our perspective) only a small number of months, the story doesn't work.

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Does it need to work? Are we required to believe that the Scalosians managed to breed even once?

I mean, the external trappings of civilization are still doing pretty well on this barren planet, as if somebody had been maintaining them fairly recently - yet only a tiny handful of Scalosians survive, and they surely have better things to do than keep fountains bubbling. On the other hand, the Scalosians we see still appear fairly inexperienced in what they do, debating how much to tell their victims, or how much compassion to show. Yet Neela says several starships have been hit so far.

So we're facing two prime possibilities. One, starships are bountiful in this unknown part of the galaxy and arrive quite frequently, yet still only once every Scalosian generation, leaving each boarding party inexperienced in their art; this allows for generations of reasonable length. Or two, just a tiny handful of ships have been hit so far, always by Neela's team, and the results are still brewing inside a handful of Scalosian women staying planetside; this calls for longer generations or even greater frequency of arrivals. But in both cases, the calamity that rendered Scalosians sterile is only in the fairly recent past by human standards, and for this reason the cities still stand.

The option that the Scalosian society is accustomed to this lifestyle of sperm piracy, still doing fine, and maintaining its cities is less likely than these two, because there's no evidence of greater personnel resources than the small team we see, and the size of the team is the only factor allowing Kirk to overpower the intruders.

Timo Saloniemi
 
But how many are actual left? Only the dozen we see, or perhaps hundreds of thousands? The "bait" distress message might not have disclosed the total number of survivors out of fear of scaring off potential rescuers with the size of the problem.

"Look how pathetic we are ... please help."

"Your five cents can feed a Scalosian child for a month"


I believe the men were sterile, and the women were fertile. The 280 -300 men on the Enterprise could have fathered offspring with hundreds of women each.

:devil:
 
That, too, would depend on whether there has been generations of sperm piracy, or just one generation. If the former, then the numbers would probably have dwindled already, as there would be pragmatic difficulties in getting the sperm from the spacemen distributed. Say, unaccelerated donors would be nigh-impossible to "milk", and resistance by an accelerated spaceman equates loss of donor, due to the fragility issue.

Which reminds me of the strangeness of the attempt to freeze the ship. Why would the Scalosians need to "preserve" their captives? They were in an unique position to treat everybody as "preserved by default" already - the slow-as-molasses victims would not go anywhere, and would not grow old, in the time the Scalosians needed to make use of them. Indeed, the victims actually needed to be "depreserved" or accelerated in order to be of any use.

The need to deep-freeze an entire starshipful of men would seem to suggest that ships only seldom respond to the siren call, and entire generations of Scalosians make do with frozen goods in the meantime. Otherwise, the putative large number of Scalosian women in a generation would just make use of a correspondingly large number of accelerated men and then discard the lot and wait for both the births and the next ship.

In any case, we should consider it significant that Neela herself chooses to get impregnated by Kirk. Why should the pirate queen opt to get hobbled with pregnancy if there still were other wombs around? Or is the "sterility" of the males just Hollywoodspeak for impotence, and she's simply suffering from deprivation issues?

Timo Saloniemi
 
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