Wilson Cruz quits social media

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  1. Danja

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    There is such a thing as being TOO open.

    Ultimately, the only person you can control is yourself. You have to be responsible for your own behavior.
     
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  2. Herbert

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    It's a cesspool that encourages the worst behavior because there are few or no repercussions.
     
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  3. fireproof78

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    Pretty much, yeah.
     
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  4. Cyanide Muffin

    Cyanide Muffin Time is ticking away, tick, tick, ticking away. Premium Member

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    It's one of the worst inventions ever. I don't do twitter thank the gods. it's a toxic minefield.

    I do do facebook but only out of keeping in touch with a handful of friends and rellies, and to show off photography. I have set boundaries on who can contact me, so it keeps the insanity that these platforms create to almost zero.

    What really doesn't surprise me is how quickly humanity latched onto this once it was invented and put out to the public. It's like candy to ants. They just lapped it all up and now social media shows no signs of ever ending.
     
  5. DEWLine

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    Sad news, this. :-(
     
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  6. Alan Roi

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    I was just reading that the actor who was replacing Leonard Nimoy back in the 70s for Star Trek Phase II got death threats mailed from Star Trek fans. This sort of behavior well predates social media.
     
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  7. Herbert

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    No doubt. The problem with social media is that it allows people to spew their filth instantly and for all the world to see with a dose of mob mentality thrown in for bad measure.
     
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    I knew I had seen him before! (Yes...I don’t check IMDb for these things.)
     
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  9. jaime

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    It’s full of traps, you can make some half jokey contribution to what you assume is the equivalent of a very big ongoing chat in a pub, and suddenly it’s the stocks for you. If you are lucky.
     
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  12. Armus

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    Wikipedia is a handy reference. It's my first go to when I'm researching something new. Looks like their entry on Peterson is mainly focused on his forays into controversial issues of the day rather than his pyschological advice to help people.

    My case in point in regard to twitter still stands.
     
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  13. Jayson1

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    Seems like these days though it just setting them up to be attacked. If they say something one way they will get slammed for not being woke so then they basically have to apologize but by then it just means they are now a open target for anything else they say that doesn't pass muster or people use it as a jumping point to go do a big search on past tweets or news they can use to attack them or get them cancelled..

    Then if you a person of color or women you then have to deal with trolls sending constant hate posts I guess is the word since hate mail is not a thing do to people not using mail anymore. You almost have to be beyond perfect and white to not take any shit and if it gets bad the it becomes a shitstorm.


    Jason
     
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  14. Kzinti

    Kzinti Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    YIKES! :barf:
     
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  15. Armus

    Armus Commodore Commodore

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    I have found some of his youtube videos on fighting depression very helpful. I'm not that interested in all the political BS he got dragged into although his interview with Cathy Newman is priceless. My point in bringing his name up was to provide examples of how people use twitter to mock and insult people quite shamelessly.
     
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    Peterson shouldn't be getting abused for needing mental health services. He should get called out for his encouragement of others being abused, though.
     
  17. Cyanide Muffin

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    He seems to be very popular for reasons I have not yet worked out.
     
  18. Cutie McWhiskers

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    Yet we're all in this together and quitting doesn't do anyone any good? But social media, if it's nothing but toxicity, then taken to the extreme... then almost everyone would leave then it'd be a deserted echo chamber again. But people getting taken out of context would also be reduced. It's never that simple...

    Sounds about right. Especially if those heckling him otherwise told him to get it. I don't know everything going on but he's just as human.
     
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  19. DEWLine

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    Peterson has, to my eyes and ears, been willfully and publicly unkind to trans and genderfluid people (among others), claiming to be protecting Canadian society (among others) from totalitarianism by being so. I am skeptical of his claims, to be polite about it.
     
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  20. hbquikcomjamesl

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    I haven't a clue who Jordan Peterson is (beyond his being a clinical psychologist from Canada), but I can tell you two things about political correctness:
    1. It is, as presently defined in the west, a piss-poor substitute (at best) for honest-to-God empathy, and
    2. In the past, it has meant (and in some cultures, still means) guarding your words and actions, but NOT for the sake of putting up a facade of empathy. In particular, in Nazi Germany, it meant anti-semitic behavior, whether motivated by actual anti-semitism or simply by fear of being punished for nonconformity.

    Even those of us who feel genuine empathy for others, regardless of how different they may be in appearance and behavior, and make a genuine effort to avoid insulting them, occasionally suffer bouts of "hoof-in-mouth disease." The key is recognizing when we are being gauche.

    That is not to say that I will ever stop making ethnic jokes (any more than Isaac Asimov ever stopped making them). But (like Asimov) if the ethnic joke in question actually insults some ethnicity, I generally either make myself the fall guy, or I make it a fictional ethnicity (e.g., Ruritanians).
     
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