Since Vox showed the rebirth of the Enterprise-D, I wanted to ask the following question and if no why?
Spoilers Will_survive the finale?
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I wouldn't repeat that around who designed the ship.
That being said, I've been wondering if we will see an Enterprise-G at the end. Given all the chat I've heard about the Enterprise-F being decommissioned and all that, and the vibes I've been hearing about starship design, I wonder if it'll be some sort of Neo-Galaxy deal (a la the Neo-Constitution USS Titan).
The ship will survive, they'll all get their old jobs back and warp off to the next TNG episode in the final scene.
I know who designed the ship. And my dislike of the design has nothing to do with him personally. Just like my dislike of the Luna class Titan has nothing to do with Tourangeau personally. Or how I feel about most of John Eaves’s derivative work. One can dislike a design and not have to feel worried about it.
I'll second that possibility, and here comes the sleep-inducing diatribe as to why:.
The "E" movies were a bit hit or miss, and even in GEN - despite the saucer crash - could have had the "D" go out in a proper blaze of glory rather than "a blaze against the saucer's hull from frying in the atmosphere next to the freshly laid omelet ingredients that were flung out of the main shuttle bay when nobody was looking, and don't forget the windows were transparent aluminum and not glass so don't pretend that lame soap opera action shtick didn't start before the 21st century, tee-hee." As cool as the "D"'s crash was, the reasons for it require a ton of headcanon - and even then it doesn't feel like a reversal of "David vs Goliath" done with any tact or gravitas that was needed (and deserved). The crash on its own looks spectacular, but felt like a disjointed set piece.
Considering Han and Luke got killed off, and so was Kirk back in the day, the idea of letting heroes die in tragedy seems to be a trope's trope. (not to mention, Kirk's originally filmed death felt like it had more genuinely tragic meaning than the bridge he was on bopping down the hill, while he was still on it. Followed by nice overly-long soap opera speech afterward. Followed by a burial comprised of covering his body with stones (yeah, Red Letter Media honestly had a frickin' field day on Kirk's death's aftermath and they can't be blamed. Then again, the saucer AND corpse were brought back from Veridian III, so in retrospect maybe RLM, me, and others are wrong. I might be very happy with that come next week...))
Besides, not since "Blake's 7" has there been a massive downer of a series finale. Part of me thinks that wouldn't happen, but "Blake's 7" had its ship crashing in its series finale too. Aren't loose associations fun? I think they are.
If nothing else, maybe the crew survive but the ship - a character in its own right - is the one that is destroyed.
That, and the Borg are glowing green again. It's so much nicer (and more evocative) than the neon blue, which for all we know may have been due to another splinter off the Collective and one with additional fashion sense at that.
I agree, it would be a shame just to bring her back and then trash her quickly again afterward. The loss of the Enterprise-D in Generations (though John Eaves made a real winner of an Enterprise-E) was one of the most painful things I've experienced in all things Trek. I do wonder though what exactly will happen in the finale though.
I hope it does. They had this really big scene a la In A Mirror Darkly and it just seems to be a waste if it’s gone in the next episode. Maybe that’s why they had that big scene so it would be a worthy sacrifice since Generations was not so worthy.
People still think the crew is going to die?
The Borg are like the Daleks. They will never be gone no matter how many stars I wish upon.
The Borg are like the Daleks. They will never be gone no matter how many stars I wish upon.
WES: I'm here to save...
EVERYONE: Shut up Wesley!
There are so many threads popping up about the fate or potential appearances of individual characters (and now ships) that I'm tempted to merge them all into a new "Where's Waldo?" thread...
Matalas said (I think on Twitter) that Elnor was NOT on the Excelsior.
*LOL*
And then Wesley continues:
WESLEY: Excuse me, but everyone would not interrupt me if I were an ad-- oh, wait. That means it's something else. Oh, wait - I'm here to retrieve that gizmo I made in 'The Naked Now' that pieces together Picard's voice. Sees ya!
Worf: Oh, shiiiiiiiii--
Data: Too late Worf, that's my catchphrase.
If there's anything I've learned, it's "don't be so sure." I'm still quite skittish about this all.
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