Will We See Guinan

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by USS Excelsior, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. Danja

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    If Seven is a foil for Picard, Guinan could be a foil for Seven of Nine (Former Borg drone vs. Someone whose home planet was destroyed by the Borg :shifty: ).
     
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  2. Lord Garth

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    That would be interesting. In VOY, Seven didn't distance herself from the Borg so much as she saw herself differently from before. Whereas Hugh, who Guinan ultimately stood up for, seemed to reject being Borg more completely. So Guinan might not agree with Seven's methods. I'm speculating in the dark, but I think they'd have a very different view of right and wrong.
     
  3. Danja

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    Seven is always going to BE Borg to an extent (one look in her bathroom mirror in the morning tells her as much).


    Seven and Picard have had very different experiences of combat.

    Picard fought most of his battles from the bridge of the Enterprise. Seven, OTOH, was a ground soldier (How many drones has she seen being literally blown to bits right before her eyes?)

    Seven spent a good portion of her career being on the receiving end of Starfleet's weapons.
     
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  4. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'd rather see a lot of the cardassians before Sela
     
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  5. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Commander Red Shirt

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    So, who do we have, so far?

    S1: Data, Riker, Troi, Hugh, Seven.
    S2: Guinan.

    I thought I heard mention of Gates & Sela upthread. Is that confirmed or just rumor?
     
  6. Krandor

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    Agree. A show about Picard having issues with old age and needing hope and so forth is exactly the place for Guinan to proverbially hit him over the head. She fits in perfect in a story that is a psycologyiical drama about piicard. She kinda put picard back on the right path a few times during TNG.
     
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  7. Danja

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    Sela and possibly The Doctor for S2.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    There is a difference between trying to get people to watch and fan service.

    And the horror comes when it is used not in service of the story.
    McCoy and Scotty are perfect examples. They do not serve the story, and all they do is show our heroes being old. That's it. Scotty even feels useless aboard the ENT-D. It isn't interesting, doesn't expand the character, and craps on his legacy.

    Sarek was good because it made sense as a story. Sarek being a senior ambassador and trying to negotiate something while in failing health makes sense from a character perspective. Spock is more iffy but I can see the argument. Though, going by this thread, the fact that Spock doesn't mention Kirk, or Scotty, or Sulu or McCoy is a grave injustice.

    Fan service can be horrible. That's a fact. It's all in the application.
     
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  9. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Bashir or the EMH? I assume not the other The Doctor.
     
  10. Danja

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    I was talking about the EMH.
     
  11. fireproof78

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  12. Tomalak

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    I don't really understand this. He clearly aged between Encounter at Farpoint and Q2. He looked about... 14 years older.

    Another 18 years doesn't make any difference.
     
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  13. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    It's silly.

    Q just looks older to mirror Picard and makes a jibe about Jean-Luc's age. Q has to be an inevitability in the show, but only when the story is wrapping up in my opinion. They left it open in All Good Things, the trial never ends...
     
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  14. Tomalak

    Tomalak Vice Admiral Admiral

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    "If you're an immortal, omnipotent being, why do you look so much older than when we first met?"

    "I still look younger than you Mon Capitaine."

    Picard's story was bookended and punctuated by Q. He's an integral part of Picard's life and will obviously play a part as his life comes to an end.
     
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  15. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    yeah and it wasn't believable back then either
     
  16. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Especially Madred...working in pizza delivery or some other demeaning thing.
     
  17. cooleddie74

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    Guinan: "What did I tell you when we first met, Jean-Luc?"

    Picard: "Depends on which 'first time' you're referring to."
     
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  19. USS Excelsior

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    Perhaps the older colleagues like Marta or Admiral Nakumura can also make an appearance.
     
  20. ichab

    ichab Commodore Commodore

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    I think bringing back Ro would be interesting. She disappointed Picard by joining the Maquis, but the Cardassians joined the dominion, so in the end they were right. But Picard still might not have gotten over her betrayal.

    Probably won't happen because it's my understanding the actress turned down being on DS9 and her agent even told the producers not to contact them anymore about being on the show.