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Will Discovery promote the natural sciences?

"The Expanse" is the most Star Trek show right now but even then it has magical "Proto-molecules" and "Epstein drives". All Scifi needs a certain amount of fantasy. For example "The Martian", you can't grow potatoes on Mars.

http://modernfarmer.com/2015/10/can-you-grow-plants-on-mars/

I don't see much Star Trek-y stuff about the Expanse. Star Trek always provided humour and fun and some positivity. The Expanse doesn't.
 
I don't see much Star Trek-y stuff about the Expanse. Star Trek always provided humour and fun and some positivity. The Expanse doesn't.

There is a lot of humor and postivity in "The Expanse" . The most important thing is humans are thriving in space.
 
"The Expanse" is the most Star Trek show right now but even then it has magical "Proto-molecules" and "Epstein drives". All Scifi needs a certain amount of fantasy. For example "The Martian", you can't grow potatoes on Mars.

http://modernfarmer.com/2015/10/can-you-grow-plants-on-mars/

I would say the Expanse is the opposite of Star Trek, it's just another generic dystopian world in the future that doesn't make any sense, where people are used for mining in the asteroid belt. This has been covered on these boards before.
 
There is a lot of humor and postivity in "The Expanse" . The most important thing is humans are thriving in space.

I've only watched a few episodes and found it dreary as fuck. Didn't care for any of the characters either. (Heck, I liked the pilot who died in the first episode. She seemed nice.)
 
I would say the Expanse is the opposite of Star Trek, it's just another generic dystopian world in the future that doesn't make any sense, where people are used for mining in the asteroid belt. This has been covered on these boards before.

Why opposite. It's about human's first contact with alien life and humanity slowly coming together. It's what Enterprise should have been.
 
Why opposite. It's about human's first contact with alien life and humanity slowly coming together. It's what Enterprise should have been.
Well, I honestly only watched one episode of the Expanse, was completely turned off by it when I saw that people are mining in the asteroid belt in the future. It was depressing and unrealistic.
 
Well, I honestly only watched one episode of the Expanse, was completely turned off by it when I saw that people are mining in the asteroid belt in the future. It was depressing and unrealistic.

They were collecting Ice fragments for water. What was unrealistic.
 
"The Expanse" is the most Star Trek show right now but even then it has magical "Proto-molecules" and "Epstein drives". All Scifi needs a certain amount of fantasy. For example "The Martian", you can't grow potatoes on Mars.

http://modernfarmer.com/2015/10/can-you-grow-plants-on-mars/

The article you linked says you can grow potatoes on Mars. The book just needed a 'washing the soil' scene inserted cos of the salts the author didn't know about. Everything else in that article says the story got it right.
 
They were collecting Ice fragments for water. What was unrealistic.
Why would humans be used for that? Even today asteroid mining companies don't plan on using humans in any stage of asteroid mining, but somehow in the future we'll be back in the 20th century mining operations technologically? After I saw that, I half expected to see child laborers in the second episode and turned it off.
 
...Guess you Θεοφιλοσ live in a different world, humans will always exploit each other, have been going on ever since the first sunrises shone upon our dark and twisty paths!

We are not a nice species, just enough so that it works, only barely!
Not being negative, but I do see the world for what it is, and while it is still a beautyful place it is also a very dark and unpleasent place!
 
...Guess you Θεοφιλοσ live in a different world, humans will always exploit each other, have been going on ever since the first sunrises shone upon our dark and twisty paths!

We are not a nice species, just enough so that it works, only barely!
Not being negative, but I do see the world for what it is, and while it is still a beautyful place it is also a very dark and unpleasent place!

I prefer not going with my feelings or banal extrapolation of the past into the future. The future is always in the making, every technology that's going to be dominating our existence in 20 years is in the labs right now, the computational speeds that are going to be available in X amount of years can be calculated today thanks to Ray Kurzweils equations. To know what asteroid mining is going to be like in the future, one must only consult the plans of existing asteroid mining companies today. That's what I base my views on the reality of the future and that is the only way to do it if the aim is to achieve any degree of accuracy. This is why Jules Verne was a great futurist, he gathered the latest projects and proposals of leading engineers and scientists of his day and made astoundingly accurate projections one hundred years into the future and it's why the Expanse is inaccurate, because it made no such attempts.
 
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Why would humans be used for that? Even today asteroid mining companies don't plan on using humans in any stage of asteroid mining, but somehow in the future we'll be back in the 20th century mining operations technologically? After I saw that, I half expected to see child laborers in the second episode and turned it off.

Exactly, for some things humans are cheaper than robots.
 
Really do not care much about accuracy, lots of stuff can be shoehorned into what will come!
What is certain, we do not know what will come!
Chance has a great deal of weight in that saying!

Anyways we are still swines, and sci-fi has that name for a reason, besides most of the times it is not always for the science or such, but how we as people are!
 
Exactly, for some things humans are cheaper than robots.
Not really, the most expensive aspect of space colonization is life support systems. In general, robots are always cheaper, it's why most of manufacturing today is automated and why we have robots cleaning our apartments and not human maids.
 
Not really, the most expensive aspect of space colonization is life support systems. In general, robots are always cheaper, it's why most of manufacturing today is automated and why we have robots cleaning our apartments and not human maids.

You must be from the future since automation is significantly less today than 20 years ago. Take a look at Foxconn or any other electronic manufacturer. I have never seen a robot cleaning anything. I stopped even trying to use my Roomba.
And you are wrong about space. When you have something like the Epstein drive. Software is going to be more expensive and humans have the cheapest software around.
 
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