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Will Before Dishonors Ending Affect Voyager books? Spoilers!

This is what I get for not following the TrekLit news lately, I suppose. Can't wait for the books!
 
Kirsten, I suppose it's waaaay too soon to be asking questions like, "will Tuvok and Seven re-join the Voyager crew?" Personally, in the case of Tuvok at least, I kind of like him on Titan, so I hope not.

On the other side of the coin, there is also the question of "what will happen to the Doctor?" to consider. I like Kaz and would like him to stay on Voyager as CMO, but obviously there won't be room for both of them on board.
 
It's not too soon to ask those questions.

It is, however, probably much too soon to expect an answer.

:D
 
Kirsten, I suppose it's waaaay too soon to be asking questions like, "will Tuvok and Seven re-join the Voyager crew?" Personally, in the case of Tuvok at least, I kind of like him on Titan, so I hope not.

On the other side of the coin, there is also the question of "what will happen to the Doctor?" to consider. I like Kaz and would like him to stay on Voyager as CMO, but obviously there won't be room for both of them on board.

I can't imagine any of the characters who are no longer on Voyager going to back to serve on it really. Janeway, if resurrected at some point, would presumably still be an admiral (who was starting to really enjoy the job too), Tuvok has it good on the Titan, and Seven and the Doctor both have good positions elsewhere in Starfleet.

The crew we had at the end of Spirit Walk has plenty of potential in it - we've barely seen them really. Between the effects of Tare's past ordeal, the Starfleet/Voyager crew animosity and the unenviable task of making that Huanni counselor a credible character, there's plenty for Kristen to work with without putting old crew back on the ship.
 
^ Maybe, but....

Posted by Kirsten Beyer
...from a pure storytelling point of view, there are really only a couple of choices. Once she's off the ship we either have to give her a compelling story line apart from the adventures of the rest of the crew, or we have to allow her to fade into the background...

If one of the problems with Janeway as an admiral was her storylines would take place largely away from the ship itself, doesn't that suggest that most of the characters currently off doing their own thing will be gravitating back to Voyager as well? Otherwise, you have the same alleged problem as you had with Janeway: create story arcs away from the ship or relegate the character to the series' background.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I can't imagine any of the characters who are no longer on Voyager going to back to serve on it really. Janeway, if resurrected at some point, would presumably still be an admiral (who was starting to really enjoy the job too), Tuvok has it good on the Titan, and Seven and the Doctor both have good positions elsewhere in Starfleet.

Actually the Doctor isn't in Starfleet. Last we saw, he was working for a civilian think tank. Seven was working for it as well as of 2378, but by 2380 she'd left it to take a teaching position at Starfleet Academy.
 
^ ah yes it was a civilian think-tank wasn't it? Think I've got it mixed up with the Doctor's role as Janeway's representative in the Shatnerverse.
 
Well, of course, in a collaborative fiction line, there are always going to be options left open. Well, usually. But that doesn't guarantee they'll be taken. Heck, canonical Trek could have easily resurrected, say, Sito Jaxa or Geordi's mother, but it never did. It did resurrect Tasha Yar, but only temporarily, and then brought Denise Crosby back as the most ill-conceived villain ever rather than doing more with Tasha.

So just because Janeway could potentially be brought back doesn't mean she will be. It just means she's a fictional character who died in an SF universe -- every such character has the potential to be resurrected.

Yar was NOT resurrected. An alternate timeline version of her was seen to be alive in that alternate timeline. Tasha Yar's corpse is still rotting.
If you consider a dead character's alternate timeline version to be a resurrection, then the Mirror universe and the Myriad Universes would increasing the resurrections to an absurd level.

And, neither Sito or Silva La Forge are technically dead. they are presumed deceased. Or were the crew of Voyager dead until "Message in a Bottle?"
 
And, neither Sito or Silva La Forge are technically dead. they are presumed deceased. Or were the crew of Voyager dead until "Message in a Bottle?"



That is very true, although La Forge being alive after all that time missing would be a stretch. Sito though? yeah i can buy her being a prisoner all through the dominion war and then some hidden prisoner camp full of POW found somewhere in a system in cardassian space not checked before....
 
Yar was NOT resurrected. An alternate timeline version of her was seen to be alive in that alternate timeline.

Splitting hairs. Regardless of the in-universe excuse, in story terms the character was still brought back to life, the actress still brought back as a character who had been dead.

And, neither Sito or Silva La Forge are technically dead. they are presumed deceased.

You're making my point for me. People here are claiming that Janeway isn't "really dead" because she was shown to be at least spiritually intact with Lady Q. My point is that even if a character's death is not certain, it's still possible that the character will never be brought back.
 
"Oh, why would you want to go back to being one of those squishy, limited little flesh-and-blood things, Kathy? More importantly, why would I want to waste the effort on some tawdry little miracle just so you can have a cup of coffee again? You'll just die again in a few decades anyway -- the blink of an eye to a Q. So why should I inconvenience myself with something so temporary and pointless?" ;)

Okay, now I want Christopher to write the rest of the book that goes around this dialogue! (And I say that as somebody who honestly doesn't care whether Janeway is mostly dead or dead dead, as long as there are good books written.)
 
Splitting hairs. Regardless of the in-universe excuse, in story terms the character was still brought back to life, the actress still brought back as a character who had been dead.

No offense, but I have seen you argue about any number of topics, and your arguments can routinely be boiled down to "splitting hairs." You can say in story terms all you want, but Tasha Yar was, in the mainstream timeline of TNG, never resurrected. I can also say, in story terms, that she died and stayed dead at least through 2380.

You're making my point for me. People here are claiming that Janeway isn't "really dead" because she was shown to be at least spiritually intact with Lady Q. My point is that even if a character's death is not certain, it's still possible that the character will never be brought back.

Just because I'm arguing against one point you're making doesn't mean I'm arguing against anything else. I actually agree that leaving an option doesn't mean you'll take that option. And your examples are good, I just wanted to point out that they were not technically dead.
 
I understand that. But leaving that back door open also leaves the permanentness of her death in doubt. (Which, since that's what such a back door would be designed to allow, isn't exactly unexpected.)

Do the writers/editors intend to use it? Kirsten says no, and I have no reason to disbelieve her. But that doesn't change the fact that it's there.

The Aeroshuttle was there on the Voyager miniature/CG model, but it never once got used or even mentioned in seven years.)
Not really comparable. If it wasn't for the Internet, would anyone know or even care about the aeroshuttle?
 
^^Again, so not the point. Geez, this is what I get for trying to make analogies on the Internet. The relevant part of both analogies is the fact that just because something exists doesn't mean it has to be used. Everything else is beside the point.
 
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