Wii 2 possible specs leaked.
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I have to say after watching the conference, the new Wii-U looks amazing especially if you are big gamer and it appears they've listened to the "serious" gamers enough to release some more mature games. Looking forward to seeing more footage of it, prob be a review of it on the new series of the uk tv show called gadget show.
The more I look at the Wii I-PadI can't help but feel it looks way to big to hold for a while and to get your hands around it from the sticks to the buttons.
It's slightly smaller than a piece of printer paper... it's insane...
The Dreamcast controller was a joke, the GBA connection was a joke. Maybe the third time is the charm!
cant the ps3/psp or ps3/psvita already do what the wii-u is going to do? the mature games they showed, were just ports, so if you dont mind waiting a year, have fun.
i am curious about the storage solution and their online situation is going to be like.
i am curious about the storage solution and their online situation is going to be like.
According to Regi, the U is a reference to the hardcore gamer.
It's a "Wii for YOU"...the YOU being the hardcore gamer.
Anyways, looks like it has alot of potential. I don't buy the argument that it is too complex for the "casual gamer" that joined up with the Wii. It has the potential to be as complex as a 360 or as simple as an iPad. The direction it goes is up to the developer and what kind of game they wan't to make. Who knows, maybe we can get both hardcore and casual games on one console? Stranger things have happened.
It probably can't if only because every ps3 doesnt come packed with a PSP. That alone prevents developers from truly experimenting with PSP/ps3 connectivity.
why should they? It's a great idea. Perhaps technology has advanced to the point where they can do great things with it.
Thanks, clint. I wasn't making that connection and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Now about the casual gamer, my point was that a lot of senior citizens, which fall into the casual gamer crowd have started to pick it up and play it, something which was revolutionary for console systems, and in the process Nintendo opened up a new market and because of this, the system found itself in many care homes, wether they be retirement homes or long-term care facilities. Super simple to use made it easy for them to understand. The Wii-mote itself doesn't require much cognition to use.
This new controller on the other hand, I see the same as thing as giving someone a remote-control and telling them to use it. You'll have those that immediately know to use it, but those that aren't so good with technology will have trouble using it due to the added layer of cognition involved. Some people will often give up on a remote if they find it to be too complex. As an example, we got a Harmony remote years ago. My parents would often get remotes mixed up. They would insist on having one remote to turn on the TV and another to control the DVR, because as simple as it looks to some of us, they simply couldn't figure out how to just use that one remote for the DVR to turn the TV on and off without turning the DVR off, even though I had taught them how several times. The Harmony made things much simpler, but from time to time, but I still have to help them with things, so it's not perfect.
I might be putting too much emphasis on this worry, but I feel that it might have the same role as the remote, in that it ends up obfuscating if it feels too complicated, leaving people to give up. The Wii-mote in comparison is simple and direct and to the point.
Then again, you might be right. If they can hit that magical sweet spot of casual and hardcore gaming, they might have another winner on their hands. Here's hoping they do.
I've just viewed images of the new controller and, yeah, it sounds potentially interesting, but it's also a lot more complex that what I'm looking for in a games console. If the existing Wii controllers will work so that the new one is optional okay, but I'm not feeling any love for this concept. I'd really rather just use my Wii for when I want to play a 3rd-person action game that needs a stick or a multiplayer game and an iPad or my DSi LL when I'm looking for an RPG/Strategy/Puzzle game.
Gba connectivity was amazing if you had everyone set up.
Zelda Four Swords, Crystal Chronicala and Pacman Versus were all huge amounts of fun - the only problem was the cost of all the stuff you needed to bring together to enjoy it properly.
Which I guess is what nintendo are trying to solve here.
I wonder if they will implement their own version of the gamer card/score/trophy/achievement thing in this new console.
Well on the GT E3 show, Reggie from Nintendo came on to have an interview and when asked about an online service for the new console, he remarked you might hear something about that in the next few days. However saying that I doubt they will have score cards like PS3/360 and just have internal leaderboards for specfic games.
I do expect a brand spanking new online system though and I like the name I heard "Nintendo Stream" for any such service.
Actually thinking about it again, this could be pretty cool. One of the things I don't like about the Remote pointer is the lack of precision over using a mouse or a touchpad, which this would address. What I don't like about this controller is the buttons and joypads on it. I think it would have made more sense to just have the touchscreen and a socket a-la the Remote to plug in a Classic Controller/Pro for games that need sticks and buttons which would be the pack-in to replace the nunchuk.
Can't say I'll be an early adopter here, but given the backwards compatibility swapping out my PAL Wii for one of these doesn't sound like a big deal.
Can't say I'll be an early adopter here, but given the backwards compatibility swapping out my PAL Wii for one of these doesn't sound like a big deal.
actually, the psp/ps3 can do it... it's called remote play and it was working back with the game lair. Sony can probably launch the same wii-u tech demos on the PSN (assuming it's up) in a month or two.
i dont believe nintendo is going after hardcore gamers. it's a neat cover story, a smart way to build up cred with the gaming "journalists" and fanboys. but, rewatch the reveal demo real
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg[/yt]
besides zelda and mario, what says hardcore? wii-fit? drawing a picture? reversi/othello?
honestly, nintendo is going after casuals again. nothing wrong with that, but we should at least be honest.
we've all seen this song and dance before.
I was saying the PSP/PS3 can't match it due to the fact that not everyone has a PSP and a PS3. Since it would have a limited install base, developers won't bite.
Also, several hardcore games have been announced for the system. They just weren't in the video you watched.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/715110
Whether Nintendo continues to bring out the hardcore games is another matter....
my point with the psp/ps3, it can be done and it has been done. right now it has a larger install base than the wii-u, and will maintian that lead until the wii-u launches in 18 months.
sony can easily take advantage of that lead (and at this point the ps vita/ps3 combo seems like a better alternative (price aside) because the vita can play games regardless of ps3 being nearby. there was a glimmer of it with the diablo-esque game that got played on the vita, saved to the could, then picked up on the ps3.
as for the 3rd party wii-u video, i saw it and brushed it off as a bunch of ports that will be old news by the time the system arrives (but now with crazy controller junk shoe horned in). nintendo having third party support at launch isnt new. nor is them having an original hardcore game at launch new (red steel). but how long can they sustain it? if third parties see nintendo is doing the same old song and dance, i suspect they wont stick around long. of course if their games sell well they will, but history is not on their side.
sony can easily take advantage of that lead (and at this point the ps vita/ps3 combo seems like a better alternative (price aside) because the vita can play games regardless of ps3 being nearby. there was a glimmer of it with the diablo-esque game that got played on the vita, saved to the could, then picked up on the ps3.
as for the 3rd party wii-u video, i saw it and brushed it off as a bunch of ports that will be old news by the time the system arrives (but now with crazy controller junk shoe horned in). nintendo having third party support at launch isnt new. nor is them having an original hardcore game at launch new (red steel). but how long can they sustain it? if third parties see nintendo is doing the same old song and dance, i suspect they wont stick around long. of course if their games sell well they will, but history is not on their side.
Wii U has got to be the dumbest name ever. The tech looks cool, but Wii U? Come on...
The PS3+PSP connectivity is absolute shit unless they've drastically improved it in the past year or two. Sitting in the same room as my PS3 and router, playing Pixeljunk Monsters on my PS3 using my PSP resulted in a laggy, unplayable mess. I can't even imagine trying to play PS3 games on a PSP from different locations if doing so over a wi-fi connection in the same room was that terrible.
Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think Sony has ever sold a PS3+PSP bundle. That's the advantage the WiiU has--every console will have the tablet included which will hopefully make the tablet/console connectivity more than an afterthought for developers.
The tablet thing actually does give me what I would want in one machine: I could play puzzle games using the tablet as interface rather than the TV and play my old Wii games and new ones using Remote+Nunchuk+CC Pro, but I'm increasingly attracted to the smaller titles on iOS devices and suspect that like the Wii/DSi and now 3DS Nintendo is going to largely be subsisting on first and second-party titles in that space. They may still do very well and I may well still pick up a Wii U, but I think it won't be for a year or two after release.
Oh and agreed that the name is really really lame. Wii 2 would be a better choice, honestly.
Oh and agreed that the name is really really lame. Wii 2 would be a better choice, honestly.