WHY?

[spocksloveslave]

Why did the 7th season of DS9 have to suck so badly?!!
why did they have to kill off jadzia Dax and bring whiny, whimpy, Ezre Dax into the story?!!

granted DS9 is still my favorite star trek series but holy shit the 7th season sucks!

 

[Opus]

Actually, I wished they would have continued DS9 past the seventh season. Brooks was gone for sure, as well as O'Brien and Worf. But I bet Kira, Dax, Bashire, Jake, and Quark would return. They could bring in characters from TNG or create new characters to replace the others and continue production.

 

[gwilliams]

spocksloveslave said:
why did they have to kill off jadzia Dax and bring whiny, whimpy, Ezre Dax into the story?!!

Terry Farrell wanted to switch to sitcoms, and joined the cast of Becker.

Jadzia was my favorite DS9 character. Actually, the only DS9 character I liked.

 

[erastus25]

I agree, it sucked and definitely did not live up to 4-6. But, it definitely isn't the worst of Trek and I am satisfied with the way things are tied up. But, many episodes could use some tweaking, I agree.

 

[startrekwatcher]

Season seven did not suck. It had far more interesting episodes than season six which had a few standouts like the Occupation arc(although Sons and Daughters was weak) it had way too many average or mediocre shows. Let's see Profit and Lace, Valiant, Times Orphan, Resurrection, His Way, Change of Heart, Who MOurns for Morn.

On the otherhand we got the Final Chapter which was mostly good, Badda Bing, Inter Arma Silent Leges, Treachery/Faith and the Great River, Chimera. Sure there were some weak ones(Field of Fire, Chrysalis, Afterimage) but I overall enjoyed season seven more than six. And good riddance to Jadzia. boooooooooooooring!

 

[benny]

spocksloveslave said:
why did they have to kill off jadzia Dax and bring whiny, whimpy, Ezre Dax into the story?!!

As already mentioned, Terry Farrell-who played Jadzia-was not going to renew her contract for another season like all the other regulars had done. Therefore, Jadzia was killed. Ira Behr is on record as saying it was not dictated by the story, but he had to work with what he had.

As for Ezri (not Ezre), a female was chosen to replace Jadzia because the producers did not want to make the show "Colonel Kira and the boys". We had seen many confident hosts of Trill symbionts in the past; someone who wasn't confident in what she was doing was different. And that's all you can really ask.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The seventh season doesn't suck. The first half is wobbly (when I was watching the show, I got really worried they would totally botch the Big Finale) and the last half is much better. They pulled off a great final run of episodes to wrap up the Dominion War in style. Some of the stuff like the Worf-Ezri-Bashir love triangle and the Dukat-paghwraith thing was weak, but the stuff with Kira, Odo, Damar and Garak was golden.

Really S7 is no worse than the show on average. S1 was much worse, with only four watchable episodes for the entire season. DS9 had great stretches and great episodes but in any given season, you can see big problems. Its only "golden season" without any significant problems is mid-S5 thru mid-S6 and that's not really a season unless you cheat.

Actually, I wished they would have continued DS9 past the seventh season.

Ah nostalga! I remember how I wanted the Dominion to win the war and then S5 would start immediately with Star Trek: Resistance. And Voyager could arrive back in the AQ after the first two years and get in on the fun, by merging the survivors of the DS9 cast and a whittled-down VOY cast (I'd have kept Tuvok, Paris, B'elanna and EMH, and killed everyone else off in the initial Dominion attack on an unsuspecting Voyager, which had been blissfully expecting a hero's welcome, unaware of the changes back home).

Some Niners were up in arms about this notion, being savagely anti-VOY and all, but I was willing to be open-minded about it for the good of Star Trek as a whole. Who wouldn't want to see Kira and Paris or EMH and Bashir? Cmon, it could have been great fun. And to make the premise work, you really do have to go thru both shows' casts with a chainsaw, otherwise you don't have credibility.

I'd have merrily killed off, oh, Rom, Ezri, Jake, Worf, and O'Brien, and made Odo one of the enemy, hee hee. That would have shaken everyone up some. Keep Kira, Bashir, Garak and Nog. Quark would be a collaborator but with suspect sympathies. Sisko's off with the Prophets and out of the picture. Kasidy and the kid are in hiding. The Female Founder, Damar and Weyoun would still be in the story, and as for Dukat, eh. Maybe I'd have killed him off, still, in the DS9 finale.

 

[kitsune]

startrekwatcher said:
And good riddance to Jadzia. boooooooooooooring!

It's amazing how different two people's opinions of a character can be. I liked Jadzia. If any other character had died in her place, I would've just yawned. As it was, I lost interest in the series upon her death.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Jadzia was one of my least favorite characters, but they could have handled her death better. It should have happened in the episode where she gets injured on the mission with Worf. People die in a war for stupid reasons and that would have been a great place to show it.

I'd have loved to have the new Dax be male, that sure would have shaken things up hee hee but they would have had to add another female regular to keep the dang gender balance thing.

 

[Dale]

I loved Jadzia and I also loved Ezri. I found it very satisfying that Dax and Bashir finally did get together as the Dax and Worf match never made much sense to me. I actually think it would've been most interesting if Jadzia had fallen for Sisko. And what if Ezri had come on board and fallen for Jake? That could've been interesting...

 

[Kryton]

I dunno...could YOU sleep with someone you thought of as "Old Man"?

 

[Dale]

That's just the conflict that'd make it interesting... a lover who in fact saw you in your early days, watched you mature and knows way too much about you. I think of the scenes where Jadzia, affected by Lwaxana Troi's impending Betazoid menopause, was all hot and botherd for Sisko and how uncomfortable he was.

In the case of Ezri and Jake, well that's just a twist on the same thing... a lover who knows more about your dad than you do... a lover who is also one of your father's best friends.

 

[JD]

I loved most of Season 7. I thought it had some great episodes, my favorites being the final arc, It's Only A Paper Moon, and Take Me Out To THe Holosuite. As for Ezri, I think the only problem with the character was that they didn't have time to fully develop her. IMO she was just starting to come into her own as the show ended. Which is one of the great things about the Relaunch, they were finally able to fully develop Ezri.

 

[Navaros]

Season 7 didn't suck, it was DS9's very best season.

True that Ezri was an annoying, useless character, but so was Jadzia from day 1 up until her death.

Both Dax characters were dead weight with no relevance to the show or interesting qualities whatsoever.

 

[xoEJox]

Well, I have mixed feelings about this season. You can definitly tell that the writers were stretched and having problems with production (I remember reading about that at the time, including several of the writiers bailing, leaving too few behind).

The main thing that I remember turning me off was the treatment in the latter seasons of Dukat. What a waste of an intriguing character - and I remember that Alaimo fought for a while to keep him interesting, but obviously lost in the long run. That was the main thing that hacked me off about Jadzia's 'death' - who did it and why.

As far as Dax, Ezri eventually won me over; She was a different enough character that it didn't seem like a bastardization of the character we already knew.

Speaking of all that's been brought up, I just thought reading that how interesting it would've been if it HAD been a guy- and continued flirtations with Jadzia's men. I'd figure after nearly a millenia of life, certain hang-ups and preferences would go by the wayside (Jadzia sure had an open mind, if you remember). The interesting thing would be how the other characters handled it.

I'd hope Bashir woulda hit that. *sets VCR*

 

[Zeppster]

DS9 started going down hill after season 3 or 4.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I liked Jadzia, but Terry Farrell wanted to leave the show, so what could you do? I think they did as good as possible with Ezri, who I liked (just not as much).

spocksloveslave, do you have any reasons besides Ezri that you dislike Season 7 of DS9?

EDIT: This belongs in the DS9 forum

 

[Yassim]

Ezri was worth it, just for the speech Garak gives her that starts "You? Help me? you can't even help yourself!"... and ends "Now get out. Before I say something unkind."

Garak's a great character, and that was one of his great moments.

Almost worth "Prodigal Daughter" and "The Emperor's New Evil Lesbian". Almost.

 

[AdmiralGarak]

Oh, thrill. More "My Dax is better than your Dax".

I like both of them, though I tend to prefer the interesting new take on the joining that Ezri brought with her. As for Season 7, I thought it maintained the same level of quality as the previous seasons. The problem-- apart from Dax-- was that as the show neared its end, some people wanted it to be all dreary bleak War stories, all the time. I don't understand why, since Season 6 had plenty of light-hearted episodes and character dramas, too.

 

[Therin of Andor]

gwilliams said:
Terry Farrell wanted to switch to sitcoms, and joined the cast of Becker.

Nope. Terry Farrell led the DS9 cast in a prolonged campaign/revolt about salary rises for Season Seven. Paramount decided to play divide and conquer, a typical political game in Hollywood, approaching each cast member individually and making various offers re pay and conditions. But Farrell was easily replaced, and didn't have the extensive list of acting credits to fall back on, so she wasn't given a commensurate pay offer and she and her agent made good with the threat not to re-sign.

After leaving DS9, Farrell auditioned for the pilot of "Becker".