Why weren't the Genii THE adversary for the Atlantis expedition.

[DWF]

^ Maybe not lack of knowledge regarding Ancient technology, it would have been nice if they had a few Ancient toys to fend off the Wraith, hence why they could have survived so long with the Wraith out there, and generally know about the Ancients and their history. But, they would have not known where the Ancient city ship was, that leaves room for our team finding it, making base there, and stepping into something we know nothing about in the Pegasus galaxy.

The wraith allow them all to survive until they wake up and cull them but I didn't get the impression that the Genii knew about the Ancients.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Again, if they had made the Genii stronger than they were originally shown, they could have stood up to the Wraith, just like we did with the Goa'uld. They could have written the Genii differently from the get-go.

OK, how much more powerful are we talking about here? I mean the wraith were defeating the Ancients, the greater power and numbers the Ancients were throwing against them.

As powerful as needed to make the story work. The important thing is that the Genii should be shaped into a credible and interesting villain for the show, and not letting details like exactly how powerful all the various forces are get in the way of good writing. If it's implausible that the Wraith defeated the Ancients but the Genii could fend them off, then revise the backstory so that the Ancients were hampered by being decimated by virus or something. It's just a backstory, they just needed to come up with one that makes the main story work.

You'd have to make several big rewrites of the original premise to make the Genii powerful enough to be a threat to the wraith.

It goes without saying that Stargate shows could use a lot of rewrites. SG:A's premise definitely was not well thought through, assuming that their goal was to create a premise that could carry four or five seasons of good quality drama. The topic of this thread is, how to accomplish that, focusing on the Genii as the possible key?

This all sounds just a little above the Stargate writers' pay grade.

"Wisecracks and space vampires" was the premise of this show, with SG1 rehashes like replicators thrown in for bad measure.

Yeah I know they lack ambition or talent to do anything above a cheesy level, but it doesn't mean we can't discuss it as a what-if.

 

[Brent]

^ Maybe not lack of knowledge regarding Ancient technology, it would have been nice if they had a few Ancient toys to fend off the Wraith, hence why they could have survived so long with the Wraith out there, and generally know about the Ancients and their history. But, they would have not known where the Ancient city ship was, that leaves room for our team finding it, making base there, and stepping into something we know nothing about in the Pegasus galaxy.

The wraith allow them all to survive until they wake up and cull them but I didn't get the impression that the Genii knew about the Ancients.

I'm saying, that is how it could have been, and would have been better IMO, if they were written differently from the get-go.

You are still focused on what IS, we are focused on what COULD HAVE BEEN.