Why were the Tanners such assholes to Kimmy Gibbler?

[Trekker4747]

In the show "Full House" the "Tanners" most seem to be a nice group of people. The men who act as three fathers to three young girls do their best to raise them right and generally try and to do it in a good, wholesome, friendly way perfect for primetime TV on Friday nights in the 80s!

Except when Kimmy Gibbler -a next door neighbor and friend to DJ arrived- where they all, all -including the young Michelle- turn into assholes towards Kimmy.

They constantly knocking her down, bitching about her stinky feet and are you completely mean to her!

Yeah, Kimmy was maybe a bit annoying or whatever be sheesh! She was a teenager and friend to one of the kids living in their house you'd think they'd be a bit civil towards her.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Annoying neighbor/friend syndrome. A common trope. Sometimes they take over the show like Urkle.

 

[Trekker4747]

The trope makes a bit more sense when it's an adult who is on the receiving end, Kimmy was a child. And Urkle while a child at least was portrayed as being an annoyance and a pain in the ass who constantly did significant property damage to the Winslow home. What did Kimmy ever do? Stink up their house with her feet? Hard to really "connect" with that.

 

[Nerys Myk]

She was supposed to be annoying and a bad influence, IIRC. Never really watched the show all that much, so maybe I'm missing what you find objectional.

 

[BruntFCA]

She was supposed to be annoying and a bad influence, IIRC. Never really watched the show all that much, so maybe I'm missing what you find objectional.

I don't think she was ever a bad influence but it's been years sense I've seen the show.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In the Comedy central roast of Bob Saggat, Bob said at least twice something about"fucking Kimmy Gibbler" or Kimmy "blew me in the back of my limo!"

 

[od0_ital]

Stay classy, Bob!

 

[Trekker4747]

She was supposed to be annoying and a bad influence, IIRC. Never really watched the show all that much, so maybe I'm missing what you find objectional.

She was annoying, but not really a bad influence.

And what I find objectionable? Treating a teenage girl as sub-human is pretty objectionable especially coming from a group of adults who're normally very open, loving, and caring to the children they're responsible for.

 

[wissaboo]

remember the Seagers on Growing Pains? They called their tv daughter fat so many times that Tracey Gold actually developed eating disorders. The father on that show was supposed to be a psychologist wasn't he?

And I remember hearing the actress who played Nellie Olsen on Little house on the prairie how it affected her life to be known as the horrible nellie olsen

 

[Nerys Myk]

She was supposed to be annoying and a bad influence, IIRC. Never really watched the show all that much, so maybe I'm missing what you find objectional.

She was annoying, but not really a bad influence.

And what I find objectionable? Treating a teenage girl as sub-human is pretty objectionable especially coming from a group of adults who're normally very open, loving, and caring to the children they're responsible for.

Its a comedy. Its pretty much SOP that the characters get made fun of for pretty much everything.

You might want to avoid a show called "Married With Children". The teen girl on that show is often mocked for her lack of intelligence and promiscuity.

wissabo brings up an interesting point. The characters on these shows ( of all ages) physical appearance are often the focus of the humor. That can't be fun for the actors.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It was the 80s.

I'm ashamed to admit it, but some asshole did need to invent political correctness.

i'm watching a stand up concert and this comdienne is making light of her weight...

"A survey on the news, was asking the public if we as concerned people should tell fat people that they are fat? Well I wouldn't, because fat people are usually angry and violent."

 

[Spot's Meow]

You should watch Family Ties (it's on Netflix right now). I'm going through the whole series right now and have almost finished. Annoying neighbor syndrome is alive and well in Skippy. For a nice and wholesome family, they are quite mean to him. Later in the series, Skippy shows up less and they treat him much nicer when he does, but the rude attitudes shift to Mallory's boyfriend Nick. He becomes the butt of the useless, loser boyfriend lacking any drive or intelligence jokes.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Have you seen the killer Tomatoes eat France?

Marc Price who plays Skippy is in the lead.

During the opening credits he's giving this huge rant about how Family Ties shat on him and it isn't fair that Michael J Fox walked away from the series as a super star and he got bupkis... Which is when this hot peasant girl runs up to "Skippy" in a panic and Marc replies that yes, I "Michael J Fox" will help you...

Lots of kIller Tomato fun after that.

What?

You don't know what a killer Tomoato is?

Fuck.

I'm conversing with Sperm.

 

[hyzmarca]

Have you seen the killer Tomatoes eat France?

Marc Price who plays Skippy is in the lead.

During the opening credits he's giving this huge rant about how Family Ties shat on him and it isn't fair that Michael J Fox walked away from the series as a super star and he got bupkis... Which is when this hot peasant girl runs up to "Skippy" in a panic and Marc replies that yes, I "Michael J Fox" will help you...

Lots of kIller Tomato fun after that.

What?

You don't know what a killer Tomoato is?

Fuck.

I'm conversing with Sperm.

Attack of the killer tomatoes!
Attack of the killer tomatoes!
They'll beat you, bash you, squish you, mash you
Chew you up for brunch and finish you off for dinner or lunch!
They're marching down the halls
They're crawling up the walls
They're gooey, gushy, squishy, mushy
Rotten to the core
They're standing outside your door!

Personally, I've never seen Growing Pains. But Michael J. Fox deserves some fame from Back to the Future and Back to the Future Part 3. I don't think that Marc Price would have made a good McFly.

You might want to avoid a show called "Married With Children". The teen girl on that show is often mocked for her lack of intelligence and promiscuity.

Married with Children, like the Simpsons, has the advantage that the protagonists are supposed to be horribly flawed caricatures who somehow love each other despite being unable to stand each other. It's veers into live action cartoon territory often enough to get some slack.

 

[Trekker4747]

Married with Children, like the Simpsons, has the advantage that the protagonists are supposed to be horribly flawed caricatures who somehow love each other despite being unable to stand each other. It's veers into live action cartoon territory often enough to get some slack.

Sort of what I was thinking. The "standard of reality" in Mw/C wasn't very high and, unlike the Tanner household, the Bundy Household wasn't filled with wholesome family values with an environment designed to raise children in.


Been a long since I've seen Family Ties, so I don't quite remember how everyone beyond the children in the house treated Skippy.

With Kimmy how Stephanie treated her is one thing, but how Danny, Joey, Jessie ad even Becky(!) treated her was another! Wow! Which, again, is a real contrast to the supposed "good values" they were trying to enstill into the children which obviously was poorly rubbing off on Michelle who as a kindergartner treated Kimmy like shit.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I think it's because the Tanners were so afraid of the fragility of their white bread family structure that even Kimmy's tame quirkiness was too much of a threat and they were afraid at any second reality would come streaming in. Probably the same with Skippy until Nick came along until the Keaton's broke him of his rugged individuality and brought him into the "family"

 

[Trekker4747]

If only Carl had been a little harder on Steve, he could have avoided the disappearance of his sister-in-law, nephew and one of his own children. He also could have avoided life and reality from crashing down on him sending his life to tame, normal, and often times good sitcom centered around an African-American family to a sci-fi centric sitcom.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Married with Children, like the Simpsons, has the advantage that the protagonists are supposed to be horribly flawed caricatures who somehow love each other despite being unable to stand each other. It's veers into live action cartoon territory often enough to get some slack.

Sort of what I was thinking. The "standard of reality" in Mw/C wasn't very high and, unlike the Tanner household, the Bundy Household wasn't filled with wholesome family values with an environment designed to raise children in.


Been a long since I've seen Family Ties, so I don't quite remember how everyone beyond the children in the house treated Skippy.

With Kimmy how Stephanie treated her is one thing, but how Danny, Joey, Jessie ad even Becky(!) treated her was another! Wow! Which, again, is a real contrast to the supposed "good values" they were trying to enstill into the children which obviously was poorly rubbing off on Michelle who as a kindergartner treated Kimmy like shit.

Can't say the "standard of reality" was all that high on "Full House". It was pretty cartoonish as well. I'm still not sure if the Olsens aren't Toontown refugees.

 

[Sara Manning]

I saw on one episode Stephanie apparently got in trouble at school along with the other kids in her class for making fun of a boy named Walter and calling "Duckface" because he purses his lips out; Jesse told that it was not nice to tease others and made her call this Walter boy on phone to apologies to and even Danny agreed with the idea, mean while I was thinking how odd was for them to tell Stephanie not to be mean and insult this poor kid but then they go and call Kimmy an "Airhead" more then once! : /

The 3 men on the show should have just said to the 3 girls "Now remember it is very mean and hurtful to tease and make fun of other people; so NEVER be rude and ridicule anyone, unless of course it's Kimmy then feel free to have NO mercy."

 

[Awesome Possum]

Married with Children, like the Simpsons, has the advantage that the protagonists are supposed to be horribly flawed caricatures who somehow love each other despite being unable to stand each other. It's veers into live action cartoon territory often enough to get some slack.

The Bundys were never rewarded for their behavior either. They seemed to exist purely so the entire universe could make them its punching bag. Like that episode where aliens are stealing Al's socks to use as fuel as save the galaxy. Everyone thinks he's nuts and he's never able to prove despite the aliens agreeing to let him photograph them. Al's socks end up saving billions of lives on countless worlds where he is praised as a hero, but no one on Earth will ever respect him. Not even his dog.