Why was Rom attracted to Leeta physically?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by Tribble puncher, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2003
    Although apparently statistically far more common...

    Humans just happen to be really narrow-minded, is all. In this respect, and in others.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  2. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 10, 2005
    Location:
    The visitor's bullpen
    Romance is not normally realistic.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2017
    Nyotarules likes this.
  3. velour

    velour Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2014
    Location:
    USA
    I have noticed that the females who are the objects of alien male desires are almost always attractive human-looking females, even when the female is non-human.

    I remember in "Blood Oath" Kor had his arms wrapped around two lovely human-looking woman. I don't know if they were suppose to be humans or some other species, but they were definitely human looking.

    I also remember in "Unification", the Ferengi -- the one who told Riker that he never learned to speak hypothetically -- had two human looking females as his companions.

    It seems rare for a radically non-human looking female, like a Ferengi, Gorn or Species 8472, to be shown as the object of desire or lust.

    I don't know what the in-universe explanation may be. But in the context of Trek as a tv show, the audience can surely understand why a character -- alien or human -- would be attracted to a beautiful human, or human-looking woman.
     
  4. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2001
    Location:
    On the run.
    We've seen Klingons, Cardassians, and Bolians that way. But rarely, as you say.

    Have there even been female Gorn or Species 8472 on screen?
     
  5. Prax

    Prax Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2017
    Location:
    Prax
    Yes, Chakotay kisses a female 8472.

    Rom & Leeta always make me uncomfortable. I was rooting for her to hook up with Dr. Zimmerman, and get a more respectable job. He seemed so lonely. She would've been good for him.
     
  6. Kor

    Kor Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Location:
    My mansion on Qo'noS
    They reminded him of smooth-headed Klingons from the good old days. :lol:

    Kor
     
    Tim Thomason and Nyotarules like this.
  7. at Quark's

    at Quark's Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Her first message back to her superior after Rom became Grand Nagus: 'mission accomplished' ;)
     
    UnknownSample, kkt and Nyotarules like this.
  8. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2016
    Location:
    London
    Sexy looking, human female (tall, blonde, blue-eyed, just to fit the real life stereotype of what is considered beautiful) falls in love with Silicona the female Horta ......cos love in the Federation is blind....:luvlove:
    Now that would make a great scene lol
     
  9. Bad Thoughts

    Bad Thoughts Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Location:
    Containment Area for Relocated Yankees
    Out of curiosity, do people consider Bashir a better match than Rom for a match for Leeta? Bashir, a career oriented man who tends to have trouble relating to women, is somewhat juvenile, and spensds too much time LARPing? Or Rom, a muddle-headed, dedicated, resilient, self-sacrificing man with whom Leeta shares workplace experiences? Moreover, Rom has nose ridges! Big nose ridges! Bashir has none!
     
    Nyotarules likes this.
  10. Prax

    Prax Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2017
    Location:
    Prax
    Dr. Zimmerman FTW. I can't picture Bashir with anyone for some reason. I don't think the writers could either.

    Bashir's ideal women are like perfect supermodels that are super intelligent and super talented in the Arts. He would probably pine for Seven of Nine if he had ever met her, but I'm not sure the feelings would be reciprocated.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2017
  11. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Location:
    JirinPanthosa
    Almost every scifi ever made applies the human standard of beauty to all races, DS9's not any different.
     
  12. Kor

    Kor Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Location:
    My mansion on Qo'noS
    Then the possibility of Gorn or Horta would be absolutely inconceivable.

    Speaking of which, that should have been Zek's catchphrase: "Inconceivable!" :rofl:

    Kor
     
  13. Sakonna

    Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2015
    Location:
    Sakonna
    The Rom/Leeta thing doesn't age well. It's not the actresses fault, but on the page she's DS9's least developed recurring character. I always thought there was the seed of something interesting in how Leeta had emerged from the traumas of the occupation with such a cheerful disposition, that could have been an intriguing angle to flesh out -- the people who emerge from the darkest experiences determined to embrace the sunny side of life.

    Really, the perfect guy for her would have been Neelix. Like Rom, looks like a giant space rodent. But like Leeta, Neelix was also a relentlessly upbeat character whose species had been the victim of a near-genocide, with writers not really interested in exploring the connections between those two things. The perfect match!
     
    kkt likes this.
  14. Voth commando1

    Voth commando1 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2016
    Location:
    In a sub-sub atomic universe with kittens
    Maybe Leeta never experienced the occupation. Perhaps she fled to some other system or world where Bajorans were taken as refugees.
     
  15. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2016
    Location:
    London
    Opposite attracts Rom and Leeta are perfectly matched, even better than real life Mr and Mrs Trump
     
  16. marlboro

    marlboro Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2015
    Rom is my least favorite character in all of Trek. Since everything about him is annoying he probably just hooked up with her to c*** block the rest of the galaxy.
     
  17. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Location:
    JirinPanthosa
    Also on TV, remember that men are allowed to be shallow and only date attractive women but women are only allowed to like men for their personality. Haven't you seen romantic comedies?

    In the world of TV and movies, the human standard of beauty applies to everybody no matter what they look like even if they are giant slug creatures. All nice guy beta males are entitled by their kindness to have sex with incredibly attractive women, and it is the moral responsibility of all said women to furnish them this reward.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2017
    UnknownSample and Six of Twelve like this.
  18. Bad Thoughts

    Bad Thoughts Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Location:
    Containment Area for Relocated Yankees
    Rom is shallow? He's tolerant and loyal. He is willing to accept new belief systems. Moreover, she falls for him because he does things like risk his own well-being for labor interests and to keep the quadrant free from the Dominion. Those things are hard to factor out.
     
    kkt likes this.
  19. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2001
    Location:
    On the run.
    I dunno, based on the few relationships we see, I don't think you can say Bashir has "a type".

    Melora Pazlar.
    Ezri Dax.
    Sarina Douglas.
    Leeta.

    To my mind, there's a pretty wide range of looks, personalities, intellects, and talents. I'm not saying any of them were ugly or stupid, but they hardly all fall into some super-model-super-intelligent-super-talented category.
     
  20. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Location:
    JirinPanthosa
    Rom is Adam Sandler, Leeta is the Adam Sandler love interest.

    You see attractive women in TV and movies fall for unattractive but nice and loyal men all the time, but you never see attractive men fall for unattractive women for the same reason. Just pointing out the blatant cinematic double standard.

    And I'm not criticizing Rom, I'm criticizing the writers. Do you really think they would have ever, in a million years, paired an attractive humanlike male with kind and loyal Ferengi female?
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2017
    UnknownSample and Six of Twelve like this.