Why not just use the pilot design?
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It did start the entire franchise.
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As far as I'm concerned, it's got NO grace and NO beauty to it. It's a misshapen turd dropped from a constipated sphincter.
While the old one is magnificent in every way.
And I find it utterly brilliant how the people are all for it, and one moment go, "Normal people can't see the difference, it's the Enterprise," and a moment later promptly go, "If they'd used the old design, people'd recognized the 60's Enterprise and keep away from the movie!" Rather contradictory, isn't it?
Which kinda brings me to my point: Star Trek fans wouldn't stay away from the old design, non-fans either don't see a difference or don't care, so they'd be coming to the movie just as well.
But no, scat-sex-up the ship!
Owned!
But people talk about it like it was the greatest thing ever produced. It wasn't. If it was it wouldn't have been canceled after almost 2 seasons. People would've watched it.
For a 1960s TV show it was good. Using the same design aesthetics for a 2009 movie, nuh uh. That makes as much sense as using these people:
and expecting to make some money today. This isn't 1966, it's 2008. People's tastes have changed. If you can't understand that one fundamental truth then there's no point going through thread after thread after thread about how the Enterprise has changed or Kirk can drive a stick or whatever.
If you want Trek...this is what you get. If you don't like the modernization, then don't watch but don't expect anything to ever be produced that you'll approve of.
Stick with fanfics.
This is JJ...There's is visual symbolism is much of what he directs. This isn't just about the 60's and what "works" visually onscreen. There's more too it than that...it's about Uhura. Here, the design aesthetic is significant. Look carefully, everything about this ship, both external and internal is "curved." It's portraying Enterprise as a curvy, sexy, very sexual woman. Now, look at Uhura.
We first see the ship under construction, naked, unable to escape Kirk's gaze. When he boards her, she has matured. She's still powerful and sexy, but she also commands respect.
Also in the trailer, we see Kirk try to sneak a peek at Uhura, so she gives him a show before kicking him out. That's what's going on between Kirk and the ship too. I would submit that JJ is making the Uhura-Kirk relationship and the Enterprise-Kirk relationship into a symbolic parallel.
Kirk tries his best to sneak a peek at Uhura when he sees her on the Enterprise. That's why she's taking off her shirt in the trailer. Apparently, she knows he's there, so she gives him a quick peek, but nothing beyond the bra and then dresses him down and kicks him out. She's giving voice to the Enterprise here, as if Enterprise knows why he's unboard and she's not going to have it. If he wants to serve on her; if he wants to captain her, she'll have to respect her and treat her like a real lady, like a queen - which is, I think, a lesson most men today need to hear. Unfortunately, most men today are too stupid to actually think about something like that when watching a film, but on the other hand the Trek fans can be a bit more cerebral, so we'll see about that.
There's a direct relationship here between Kirk sneaking a peek of Uhura shirtless and the Enterprise being built. He's trying to see the untouchable girl, Uhura naked, because he's so full of himself, he thinks he can have any woman he wants - but Uhura's going to teach him something about her. He sees Enterprise when she's naked under construction and unable to hide from Kirk's gaze. At first serving aboard her is a matter of pure lust. However, he grows to respect her, as he grows to respect Uhura, because Uhura, being a strong black woman and a woman of real character teaches him to respect her. Enterprise does the same to Kirk. Enterprise turns out to be his one true love, the woman he marries (and at death do they part).
This Enterprise is Enterprise in her bra, giving Kirk a look at the goods. She's got 'em, and she's not afraid to use them, but she's not a whore. She'll use the goods to do what she must, but she'll not be had by just any man, and she'll make that man respect her for the queen she really is. She'll let him get a good look, then she'll jack him up, while wearing her miniskirt and boots and kick him out, and that's precisely what this Enterprise will do with Kirk if he treats her like anything less than the queen she is. She's not just any ship. No, Ladies and Gentlemen, She's the F***ing Gray F***i-n-g La-dy, even if she is in sexy lingerie today, that brothers and sisters isn't negotiable. Treating her as anything other than that is not an option, Playa. Uhura is still a magnifcent African woman, virtually a queen in every way, and that isn't negotiable either, not for Kirk, not for any man. Why? Because she knows how she is and what she wants.
And after snagging her man, well, there's no need to show off the goods is there? No, Enteprise gets what she wants in Kirk, so later on she covers up. She's still sexy in TOS, but not like this. In TOS, she's the sexy librarian who wears a miniskirt - and isn't that Uhura too? For example, in The Tholian Web, think of the way Uhura acts? She mourns Kirk's loss,and when she sees Kirk, she voices her joy. Isn't that also the Enterprise? When Kirk surrenders in TUC, and Uhura is utterly floored, isn't that also the Enterprise speaking? When Uhura puts Mr. Adventure in his place in TSFS, isn't that also Enterprise helping things along?
Get the picture, now?
In this movie, she's the sexy librarian in her lingerie. In the Trek movies, she wears a business suit or skirt. Follow Uhura as she matures from TOS to the movies, and you'll see the evolution of the Enterprise too. Notice even that the ship leaves this world without Uhura aboard, and she returns with Uhura back with her men. Uhura (and to a lesser extent Majel as Chapel in TOS as the computer voice ) has always been our link to the Enterprise herself. JJ has simply taken that to the next level in this film, and, in so doing pointed it out for us.
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She blinded me with science! 
And just how old are you, Captain? I'm 50, I watched the show's first-run in 1966, and I can't wait for this new take on the old girl. What creds do you bring to the table?
It could, assuming people watching understood what a brilliant and functional design it really is, especially with a few extra details.
Functional design? Maybe. I have no doubt that some of you are so engrossed in trek lore that you know every nook and cranny of TOS enterprise. However, "form follows function" really doesn't work on the big screen. In the world of warp engines and transporters, people couldn't care less how "well" (questionable as TOS enterprise was MADE UP) the ship functions.
Granted, by to my eye its also a very elegant and aesthetically pleasing design.
I have no problem with scantily-clad women (neither did TOS) nor visualgasms. I like the new ship design okay - the more I see it the more I like it. I won't ever like it as much as I did the original (or the bridge design, for that matter), and it would have been nice to see the old girl mostly unchanged, but the new one is fine.
I just disagree with anyone who thinks that the fundamental design of the old ship is unattractive and couldn't possibly work in a modern movie.
I just disagree with anyone who thinks that the fundamental design of the old ship is unattractive and couldn't possibly work in a modern movie.
Holy shit, it just dawned on me! BATMAN is the mayor of Quahog, Rhode Island! 
As piloted by Han Solo and Doctor Spock against the Cylons.
Honestly, am I supposed to be glad that this this movie is catering to people who, in all honesty, will forget it completely a day or two after seeing it once and likely won't come around a second time? And, even while watching it, will be wondering why Kirk doesn't just use the Force to kill Nero?
This film has already spent 250,000,000 pounds! There's no way in hell this movie can make a profit now, even if it's a huge mega-hit. That means that the movie would have to gross $374,675,275 just to break even - and they're still spending money on production!
To put this into perspective, the record-breaking Iron Man took in $318,000,000 (roughly) during its theatrical release.
Yeah, good luck on that, Abrams.
To put this into perspective, the record-breaking Iron Man took in $318,000,000 (roughly) during its theatrical release.
Yeah, good luck on that, Abrams.
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