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Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Movies

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Warning: Spoilers for the film adaptation of Kick-Ass, and those of you lowlifes who haven’t seen Inglourious Basterds yet…

I want to start out by saying that I am not a Mark Millar fan and I am unquestionably not a gigantic fan of Quentin Tarantino, yet I understand the worship for Millar’s comics just as equally as I understand the love for Tarantino’s movies. Both Millar and Tarantino are uniformly similar because they offer satirical glimpses into an existing world. They are self-aware, they acknowledge the world they’re in, and they pay homage to it. Mark Millar basically paid one big homage to comic-books and superheroes with Kick-Ass, and on the same level Quentin Tarantino paid homage to the art and power of cinema with Inglourious Basterds.

I have been reading some complaints leveled lately towards the film adaptation of Kick-Ass, presumably from those who have not read Millar’s graphic novel of the same name. They disparage the trailers for featuring a young girl (Chloe Moretz) named Hit-Girl who uses vulgarity and performs excessively violent acts. They say it sets a bad example for their own daughters and they find the imagery and language disconcerting. Well, let’s get this out of the way first: For those of you who think Kick-Ass is insensitive and vulgar, you are entitled to your opinion. If you’re afraid your daughter is going to start saying the c-word and slicing up junkies because of Hit-Girl, simply put, shield your daughter from the monstrosity that is Kick-Ass. The advertisements will likely be PG-rated, so no harm there. Just don’t bring her to see the movie, until she starts seeing images of Aaron Johnson everywhere and practically begs you to see the movie staring the hot young Aaron Johnson. You can’t say I didn’t warn you.

Some complain that Kick-Ass is essentially Spy Kids with vulgar language. First off, the Spy Kids films were indulgent forays into a young demographic of escapism. Sure, Robert Rodriquez’s films were occasionally smart and witty, but they didn’t have much in terms of substance or thematic weight. Kick-Ass is an entirely different breed of animal. Kick-Ass is all about creating this hyper-realistic world of superheroes based on pre-existing superhero mythologies. It is completely self-aware and a satirical look at the impact superheroes and comic-books has had on the comic-book fan populace.

Take, for example, one trivial but in my opinion significant scene in Kick-Ass (the shooting script, and not the graphic novel or film… No, I haven’t seen the film yet, wise-ass). Our titular hero Kick-Ass (Johnson) and Red Mist (Christopher Mintz-Plasse, otherwise known as “McLovin”; hereonin known as “Red Mist”) are riding in the Mistmobile and the script describes them driving to “Danny Elfman music”. There’s a special significance to this because here are wannabe superheroes. They’re essentially kids, as the story points out on numerous occasions. They aren’t superheroes; they just want to be superheroes.

Therein lays the difference. Kick-Ass isn’t just your typical superhero story, or origin story, where our heroic lead goes through some tragedy and is transformed, leading to a quest to become the inevitable superhero. Kick-Ass, in fact, pokes fun at that very familiar and often necessary part of the origin story. Our hero, Dave Lizewski (such an ordinary name for a superhero…), doesn’t get bitten by a radioactive spider, or become endowed with mutant abilities, or arrive from an alien planet. Heck, even when his mother dies, it isn’t due to a mugger in an alley, but due to an aneurism. Kick-Ass takes the mundane and normal lives we have and attempts to make them extraordinary not because they are but because we as people want them to be. We fantasize about wearing superhero costumes and fighting crime to Danny Elfman music. Therein lays the brilliance of Kick-Ass.

The Inglourious Basterds parallel, for those of you wondering: Many people complained that another Holocaust/WWII driven movie, Defiance, was ponderous and plodding. Understandably, so. Defiance was a revenge thriller that basically carried a card over its neck saying, “Academy Award consideration, please?” and you’ll notice Defiance is noticeably absent from this year’s Academy Award nominations. Inglourious Basterds, despite my problems, defies history and chooses to reshape the events of the past in an attempt to show the power cinema has on transforming our lives. My problems with Inglourious Basterds have to do more with a lack of self-fulfillment (for a movie about killing Nazis, it has very little) but putting aside my own desires and wishes, Inglourious Basterds is still a look at how we perceive cinema, very much like how Kick-Ass is about how we perceive superheroes and comic-books.

Kick-Ass is essentially an encapsulation of being a nerdy comic-book fan and imagining all of this stuff. This is like the ultimate film for any comic-book fan. Now if you’ll excuse me… I have a Danny Elfman score to finish.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

You really have a knack for getting defensive about movies you haven't even seen yet.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

Okay, then...

The trailer looks like fun - I'll probably see this. Don't actually give a shit about the Glorious Comic Nerd iconography that may be represented by anything about it, though.

Based on trailers, Defendor looks like a better and more clever movie.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOOs3EbR0w&feature=dir[/yt]
 
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Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

You really have a knack for getting defensive about movies you haven't even seen yet.

Defensive? I'm just pointing out some issues I had. I mean, you got really defensive before Avatar came out. God forbid anyone criticize Cameron and the movie before it was released. I'm just wishing people would stop calling Kick-Ass something it's not. That's all. All in good fun.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

Kick-Ass is an entirely different breed of animal. Kick-Ass is all about creating this hyper-realistic world
I can deduce from the trailer that realism isn't a strong point of the film. 'Hit Girl' isn't someone who would survive her first one or two encounters, for instance. But then this depends on how one is defining 'hyper' here, I suspect.

Our hero, Dave Lizewski (such an ordinary name for a superhero…),
It's not alliterative and it's not Anglo-Saxon, but beyond that I don't see any significance there. Is this really such a peculiar name?

Based on trailers, Defendor looks like a better and more clever movie.
Look about the same to me. Low budget, jokey referencing of genre cliches.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

It looks a typical Millar project to me. Something that is mediocre at best, but being hyped up to unfathomable levels by certain people, simply because they worship the ground Millar walks on.
 
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I hope Kick Ass is NOT the Inglourious Basterds of superhero movies.

Basterds
is overrated. It was boring as hell, and NOT Taratino's best work. I know this puts me in the minority, but...I don't care. I was just bored and bored with the characters...but, blah blah blah.

I'm still excited for Kick Ass.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

It looks beat for beat like Spider Man, even some of the shots and sets look the same. It will be like every other super-hero film up until hit-girl comes in
 
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It looks beat for beat like Spider Man, even some of the shots and sets look the same. It will be like every other super-hero film up until hit-girl comes in

People have strange expectations for this film. What makes you think that, Flying Spaghetti Monster? Have you read the graphic novel, or seen any of the scenes online? What makes you think it will be like everything else, and what makes you think Hit Girl will be the big differentiator?
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

Inglourious Basterds was shite.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

I'm losing more and more respect for you, lately, Trekker4747.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

I'm losing more and more respect for you, lately, Trekker4747.

Well, let me clarify.

It was a well made movie, it was "good," but not at all what I expected or was sold in the trailers.

I wanted the Basterds. I wanted Brad Pitt and his crew going around killin' Nazis as this mysterious band of Jews guys cutting Nazis inside out. Instead, I got the nonsense with the Jewish girl and her German suitor. It was a "good" movie, I liked it. It's just not the movie I was expecting as it had little to do with the "Basterds" who were the central foucs of the trailers! So this isn't a case of me not liking a movie because it wasn't what I wanted. It's a case of me not liking a movie because it's not the movie I was sold.

This is the movie that was advertised to me:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-foCIDGZCbg[/yt]

That's not the movie I saw in theaters. The one I saw in theaters has the Basterds as mostly secondary characters who intercuted with the plot between the Jewish woman and the German guy.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

It looks beat for beat like Spider Man, even some of the shots and sets look the same. It will be like every other super-hero film up until hit-girl comes in

People have strange expectations for this film. What makes you think that, Flying Spaghetti Monster? Have you read the graphic novel, or seen any of the scenes online? What makes you think it will be like everything else, and what makes you think Hit Girl will be the big differentiator?
okeee...

What makes me think that?

I saw the trailer.

That might be something.

It outlines the basoic loser kid tribulations and need to be different. It shows running on rooftops and and shots of the local neighborhood that were taken almost carte blanche form Raimi's film. It looks stylish but there is nary an original idea to be found. It seems that when hit girl and the other characters enter the film, it would pick up the pace a bit, but up until that point it plays out like a typical loser getting his ass kicked. It might as well be a spin-off to the Waterboy.

Still it looks fun, but you know exactly what you will getting when you watch it. It will play beat for beat exactly how you expect
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

It looks beat for beat like Spider Man, even some of the shots and sets look the same. It will be like every other super-hero film up until hit-girl comes in

People have strange expectations for this film. What makes you think that, Flying Spaghetti Monster? Have you read the graphic novel, or seen any of the scenes online? What makes you think it will be like everything else, and what makes you think Hit Girl will be the big differentiator?
okeee...

What makes me think that?

I saw the trailer.

That might be something.

It outlines the basoic loser kid tribulations and need to be different. It shows running on rooftops and and shots of the local neighborhood that were taken almost carte blanche form Raimi's film. It looks stylish but there is nary an original idea to be found. It seems that when hit girl and the other characters enter the film, it would pick up the pace a bit, but up until that point it plays out like a typical loser getting his ass kicked. It might as well be a spin-off to the Waterboy.

Still it looks fun, but you know exactly what you will getting when you watch it. It will play beat for beat exactly how you expect

That's heck of a strawman you built there!

Teenage kid come superhero. Running on rooftops. It must be trying o remake Spider-Man! A movie that came out eight years ago.

I agree that Hit-Girl looks like she's going to be the one to "make the movie" more so that the "Kick Ass" character, but other than some very, very superficial things I see no similarities between this movie and the Spider-Man franchise.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

I understand film trailers are commercials designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and get as many people as possible to go see a movie. Trailers do one of two things, usually; misrepresent the movie or give the whole damn thing away.

I try and let a talented filmmaker transport me and not let my expectations get in the way. Which is why I love the Star Wars prequels.

Now that's opening a can of worms. :lol:
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

I understand film trailers are commercials designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and get as many people as possible to go see a movie. Trailers do one of two things, usually; misrepresent the movie or give the whole damn thing away.

I try and let a talented filmmaker transport me and not let my expectations get in the way. Which is why I love the Star Wars prequels.

Now that's opening a can of worms. :lol:

I do expect the trailers to more-or-less tell the audience what the movie is going to be about. I mean, what else do we have to go on? The movie I wanted to see was the one about the Basterds.

Again, the movie was "good" and had some good scenes (I liked the opening scene in the cabin, the scene in the bar and the ending scenes in the theater) it just wasn't what I was expecting. It foucsed to much on the Jewish woman and her plans to kill the Nazis. Furthermore, I'm not a fan of the idea of the movie killing-Hitler (making the movie an alternate universe) and, well, frankly I'm not a Tarintino fan to begin with.

Good movie, just not what I wanted to see or what I was sold.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

There are shots in the trailer that obviously intentionally mimic shots in Spider-Man, Batman Begins, and Watchmen, but it's not going to be anything like any of those films in tone - it's a violent, irreverent piss-take, after all.
 
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So this isn't a case of me not liking a movie because it wasn't what I wanted. It's a case of me not liking a movie because it's not the movie I was sold.

That's a silly reason not to like a film. It's either a good movie or it isn't, the trailer has nothing to do with it.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

So this isn't a case of me not liking a movie because it wasn't what I wanted. It's a case of me not liking a movie because it's not the movie I was sold.

That's a silly reason not to like a film. It's either a good movie or it isn't, the trailer has nothing to do with it.
Quite. I also went into Basterds expecting the film Trekker4747 describes, but I downright loved what I got. One of the most damn fun movies of last year.
 
Re: Why "Kick-Ass" Will Be The "Inglourious Basterds" of Superhero Mov

There are shots in the trailer that obviously intentionally mimic shots in Spider-Man, Batman Begins, and Watchmen, but it's not going to be anything like any of those films in tone - it's a violent, irreverent piss-take, after all.


I imagine, and hope, that Kick Ass will actually be more of a commentary on those tropes (loser teen, etc.) than merely replicating them.

Vaughn is a smart director.
 
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