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Why it is important some people are unhappy

I don't think any of ST is silly. I think it's all, clever, imaginative, stuff.

Voyager is a bit childish, but even that's good, and better than other SF.
Ray Bradbury, Arthur C. Clarke, Issac Asimov, and Jules Verne are all outside and would like to speak with you.
 
I think it's all, clever, imaginative, stuff.

Voyager is a bit childish, but even that's good, and better than other SF.

It is those things, very much those things. But it's also silly and many many times campy. Things we find enjoyment in when complimented by the things you mention. AGAIN, no one is insulting Trek, just admitting to what is an inherent part of alot of scifi, even the good scifi, and to a large degree Trek. It doesn't take anything away from Trek.
 
Oh, I thought it was okay. Just not much like the book (which, iirc, was short stories). It was a genuine question, I wonder what Asimov would have made of it. I don't think any of his books were filmed in his lifetime (Fantastic Voyage was not his story),
 
Oh, I thought it was okay. Just not much like the book (which, iirc, was short stories). It was a genuine question, I wonder what Asimov would have made of it. I don't think any of his books were filmed in his lifetime (Fantastic Voyage was not his story),


I just hear so much nitpicking of everything anymore I feel compelled to make that statement whatever I'm posting on.

:bolian: My comment wasn't really directed at you.
 
I loved it. Though I usually choose to enjoy most my entertainment...
How?

Seriously, I'd love it if that were possible... but an informed critical sensibility makes it all but impossible most of the time. Sturgeon's Law, y'know?

(The I, Robot film, for instance, was indubitably crap.)
 
I loved it. Though I usually choose to enjoy most my entertainment...
How?

Seriously, I'd love it if that were possible... but an informed critical sensibility makes it all but impossible most of the time. Sturgeon's Law, y'know?

(The I, Robot film, for instance, was indubitably crap.)
It's all about managing expectations. I watch an "Ahnuld" movie with very different expectations than a Bergman film. I could choose to keep my "informed critical sensibility" at "full power" all the time, but then I'd be forgoing many little pleasures, as well as turning entertainment into work, rather than a diversion. Entertainment and art can rise above mere diverse (and the examples are numerous) but it doesn't HAVE TO do so. Makes it so much easier to enjoy entertainment with people who don't take it too seriously.
 
I loved it. Though I usually choose to enjoy most my entertainment...
How?

Seriously, I'd love it if that were possible... but an informed critical sensibility makes it all but impossible most of the time. Sturgeon's Law, y'know?

(The I, Robot film, for instance, was indubitably crap.)
It's all about managing expectations. I watch an "Ahnuld" movie with very different expectations than a Bergman film. I could choose to keep my "informed critical sensibility" at "full power" all the time, but then I'd be forgoing many little pleasures, as well as turning entertainment into work, rather than a diversion. Entertainment and art can rise above mere diverse (and the examples are numerous) but it doesn't HAVE TO do so. Makes it so much easier to enjoy entertainment with people who don't take it too seriously.

Indeed. :techman:
I can enjoy... say... Frasier, Gone with the Wind, Dragon Wars, High School Musical, Star Trek, The Talented Mr. Ripley... all for what they are.
 
(The I, Robot film, for instance, was indubitably crap.)

But was every element of it crap?

It's possible to be unsatisfied by a movie, but still be able to appreciate its acting, or directing, or special effects, or music soundtrack, or writing, or any combination of these and other elements.

There aren't too many films released theatrically that get pulled after one day because no one at all likes them.
 
but an informed critical sensibility makes it all but impossible most of the time. Sturgeon's Law, y'know?

Only if you choose to see the majority of what's released.


Which I do.


Simply... I um... just enjoy it. I don't care how you try to insult me.
I criticize most things I watch, some very harshly. But in the end it's
entertainment and there is always something to be taken from it that
was fun, a nice twist, a cool chracter... or overall most things aren't
near as bad as nitpickers like to make them seem.


How?

Seriously, I'd love it if that were possible... but an informed critical sensibility makes it all but impossible most of the time. Sturgeon's Law, y'know?

(The I, Robot film, for instance, was indubitably crap.)
It's all about managing expectations. I watch an "Ahnuld" movie with very different expectations than a Bergman film. I could choose to keep my "informed critical sensibility" at "full power" all the time, but then I'd be forgoing many little pleasures, as well as turning entertainment into work, rather than a diversion. Entertainment and art can rise above mere diverse (and the examples are numerous) but it doesn't HAVE TO do so. Makes it so much easier to enjoy entertainment with people who don't take it too seriously.

Indeed. :techman:
I can enjoy... say... Frasier, Gone with the Wind, Dragon Wars, High School Musical, Star Trek, The Talented Mr. Ripley... all for what they are.

Good men. :)
 
I thought that I Robot was absolutely awful as something that used characters and situations from Asimov's work, just awful.

However as a film taken on it's own merits, I thought it was an very passable couple of hours of popcorn entertainment.
 
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