I'd love to hear if anyone knows why Starfleet is depicted in this movie as made up mostly of humans? You would think there would be more of an equal representation of beings from other Federation Planets. Is Starfleet Acedemy on Earth THE Starfleet Academy or are there maybe other Starfleet Academies on different worlds?
Why is Starfleet mostly human?
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Starfleet academy is just on Earth like Harward is in Massachusetts, but I agree with the general point.
Trek was always like that, mostly humans with 1, maybe 2 non-human in major cast. That has always bugged me. But then again, if humans were an equal part, aliens wouldn't be that special anymore.
Trek was always like that, mostly humans with 1, maybe 2 non-human in major cast. That has always bugged me. But then again, if humans were an equal part, aliens wouldn't be that special anymore.
There was, we just didnt see them.
Again, due to money and budget, forehead aliens are another rarity in a production of this scale. Just fill it with human extras.
Kirk was boning a sexy lookin' green Orion.
The fish eye woman on the Kelvin.
The other alien on the Kelvin.
There were a few on the Enterprise dotted around the bridge.
Spock.
And Captain Robau being so bad ass, hes his own species.
Again, due to money and budget, forehead aliens are another rarity in a production of this scale. Just fill it with human extras.
Kirk was boning a sexy lookin' green Orion.
The fish eye woman on the Kelvin.
The other alien on the Kelvin.
There were a few on the Enterprise dotted around the bridge.
Spock.
And Captain Robau being so bad ass, hes his own species.
It be much easier to call up a bus if you're a human on Earth wanting to go to the academy instead of having to go half way across the Federation. Still wish there were a few more though.
By the way, that big-eyed gal was cute! And that completely non-human looking Kelvin alien was awesome, I want THAT guy as my Number One.
By the way, that big-eyed gal was cute! And that completely non-human looking Kelvin alien was awesome, I want THAT guy as my Number One.
Cause its a human TV show, well that and
Truthfully this has bugged me as well. Though one can speculate that there are some humanoid species out there that are identical to that of humans (same exact appeance).
Truthfully this has bugged me as well. Though one can speculate that there are some humanoid species out there that are identical to that of humans (same exact appeance).
I agree, i loved to see physical puppets back in Trek, unless it was CG and im forgetting as it was awsome.
Yeah, she was now you mention it. But it was unsettling to see. I think its just becuase our human brain is used the normal facial features, but when they are ever so slightly altered, as is in the case of the midwife, your brain tells you its wrong and wierd.
However, for some reason, Treks forehead aliens have the adverse effects as they are so extensively different that you dont think of them as wierd looking.
I dunno, i think its just the subtlety of the difference thats the biggest difference between her and the foreheads.
I'll buy the budget argument for the other Trek movies, but not this one. With the budget they had, they could have thrown in a few more Federation aliens at the academy and on the Enterprise to make Starfleet seem more like a multi species outfit.
I'm glad they did the eyes instead of some small prosthetic like the Bajorian nose or a forehead piece, it REALLY gives you the sense of being alien instead of just a person in make-up.
Oh, and the Kelvin guy WAS a puppet: http://donlanning.deviantart.com/art/Anschloss-K-Bentayr-123535421
That is true, but too many aliens and foreigners to Star Trek would loose interest. If you have there are, say, 140 planets in the Federation, and humanity was 1/140th of the population of Starfleet, new comers to Star Trek wouldn't be able to really related since there isn't enough humans.
Oh, and the Kelvin guy WAS a puppet: http://donlanning.deviantart.com/art/Anschloss-K-Bentayr-123535421
That is true, but too many aliens and foreigners to Star Trek would loose interest. If you have there are, say, 140 planets in the Federation, and humanity was 1/140th of the population of Starfleet, new comers to Star Trek wouldn't be able to really related since there isn't enough humans.
Thanks. I remember a thread back when the images were first released about hte Kelvin puppet, but its been so long and so many threads away now that i forgot about it until tthis thread brought it up.
Gotta love physical puppets in movies. Its worked in raelly big budget movies instead of CGI and even the late Stan Winston has done his fourth Terminator movie with puppets.
Cool. Agreed on the prosthetic part, it does have more impact than a piece of latex one teh actors face.
Because humans are the ones buying the tickets.
For what it's worth - which isn't much - Memory Alpha lists four founding members of the Coalition of planets, adding "several more" by 2267, when the name was changed to the Federation; the actual membership at the time of this movie was not necessarily large.
Starfleet grew out of UESPA - United Earth Space Probe Agency. It was actually identified as such in the early TOS series, until they settled into the "Starfleet" designation. Naturally these ships would have a heavy Terran billeting.
In addition, planetary members were mostly autonomous - there is no need to think that Earth's starships were the only ships in the larger fleet, or that there were no other drydocks elsewhere, customizing Starfleet specs to other-than-human physiology.
So - one could say that on Andora, they may have had a TV show featuring blue-skins, because they could've cared less about the goings on over with the pink-skin ships.
Or you could drop the canon beanie and say the guys above nailed it dead right. ~grin~
Starfleet grew out of UESPA - United Earth Space Probe Agency. It was actually identified as such in the early TOS series, until they settled into the "Starfleet" designation. Naturally these ships would have a heavy Terran billeting.
In addition, planetary members were mostly autonomous - there is no need to think that Earth's starships were the only ships in the larger fleet, or that there were no other drydocks elsewhere, customizing Starfleet specs to other-than-human physiology.
So - one could say that on Andora, they may have had a TV show featuring blue-skins, because they could've cared less about the goings on over with the pink-skin ships.
Or you could drop the canon beanie and say the guys above nailed it dead right. ~grin~
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Because the other Federation worlds are welfare states where slimey lifeforms have litters of 8 kids, living on the public dole while letting humans die for dilithium. Peter Weller's character was right. TERRA PRIME!! 
They probably created Starfleet.
My take is each member world of the federation has its own outer space agency. Starfleet is Earth's space agency, that is why most of the members are human.
The main qualification for joining the federation is the ability to create a warp drive. There is no rule as to how advanced the warp drive has to be. It can be as primative as Zephram Cochran's ship.
Earth was one of the founding members of the federation, so it's reasonable to assume Earth technology is the most advanced; therefore Starfleet is the most advanced. That is why the federation depends on Starfleet for it's main defense. The ships that make up the fleets of the other member worlds are probably primative by comparison.
The main qualification for joining the federation is the ability to create a warp drive. There is no rule as to how advanced the warp drive has to be. It can be as primative as Zephram Cochran's ship.
Earth was one of the founding members of the federation, so it's reasonable to assume Earth technology is the most advanced; therefore Starfleet is the most advanced. That is why the federation depends on Starfleet for it's main defense. The ships that make up the fleets of the other member worlds are probably primative by comparison.
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