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why is it windows 7?
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No, I don't, which is why the lack of the real Start menu keeps causing me problems--I can't do Ctrl+Esc, R, cmd anymore like I've been doing for the last 14 years.You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
(And no, pinning it to the taskbar doesn't help me start it with the keyboard.
)No, I don't, which is why the lack of the real Start menu keeps causing me problems--I can't do Ctrl+Esc, R, cmd anymore like I've been doing for the last 14 years.You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
(And no, pinning it to the taskbar doesn't help me start it with the keyboard.
windows key + R is your friend.
It's a mistake I made once before when talking about Windows and had it pointed out to me. I made the assumption that 2000 was rushed out shortly after ME in order to cover up that ME ever existed, but it turns out that MS made a mistake by releasing a fast and stable OS so they quickly rushed out ME in order to prove that they were still as crap as ever.Well bugger me - you're rightAccording to Wiki, Win2K came out Feb '00 and ME came out in Sept '00
I thought came out in 1999 (which given Microsoft's naming at the time would of fitted with "Millenium") but I'll use the excuse I only have the misfortunate of having to deal with it once.
I also only used ME once, on my cousin's computer, and he lorded it over me that he had ME while my family was still using 98. I think I won in the end.
ME is loads of fun to play with in "Virtual PC".
I love trying to get it to crash and being satisfied that it takes so little time to get a result.
I can think of more entertaining things to do with Windows ME CDs - skeet shooting for one.
Actually, it does.(And no, pinning it to the taskbar doesn't help me start it with the keyboard.
If you have the command prompt in position 3 on the taskbar then press Windows key + 3 and it will open. Alternatively press the windows key, type "cmd" and press return, Start Search is often more useful than the run dialogue.Don't be afraid of change, embrace it.
Actually, it does.(And no, pinning it to the taskbar doesn't help me start it with the keyboard.
Don't be afraid of change, embrace it.
I will admit I prefer the older search util under windows than what Microsot introduced with Vista and continued with 7. It was much easiter to help some-one work with when you providing support over the phone.
Because Windows 6 would have been a huge joke in German.
Interesting. I'll have to keep that in mind. Not sure if I want to clutter up my taskbar with that, but that's handy to know.Actually, it does.
That shouldn't work, though. "cmd" isn't the name of a shortcut in the Start menu anywhere. o.O
Can the search handle opening the Control Panel, My Computer, or the other entries in that side of the Start menu? I know that using it to turn off the computer is a lost cause...
That's why I have this shiny Windows 7 DVD that was just delivered, instead of a Vista one that still supports the keyboard in the Start menu.Don't be afraid of change, embrace it.
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
other people don't even know what the commmand prompt is
Command Prompt? What is this, the Dark Ages? Windows Powershell FTW IMHO!
On my work machine (which is admittedly an aging P4 2.2 GHz running XP), PowerShell is significantly slower than Command Prompt to boot. That put me off it quite effectively.
Search in XP was more structured and easier to get a grip on, but on my old PC it could take 10 minutes to complete a search and I found that unusable. Instead I learned to how to keep a clean computer so that I wouldn't have to use the search function, and on Vista/7 I mainly use the search to find programs, which I find much faster than looking through the folder trees.
Start Search isn't limited to just the start menu, it searches an index of the entire computer including programs, control panel items, files, folders and even words contained within documents. By typing "cmd" it finds cmd.exe in the System 32 folder.
Yup, all of them.
Actually...
"shutdown -s -t 00" shuts down the PC.
"shutdown -h" sets it to hibernate.
"shutdown -r -t 00" causes a restart.
"shutdown -l" logs you off.
I normally just use the buttons though, it saves me from doing the typing.
IMO, that's completely and utterly broken.
That should be a separate Search item, not the results from Search the Start Menu.The added "shutdown -h" flag is nice (even more so if there's a corresponding one for standby) for when I'm using Remote Deskttop. But... damn. At least the other one was still a search; this isn't even that!
So it's "Search My Whole Computer And Run Random Shit", basically?Under XP I can hit Ctrl-Esc U Enter much quicker than I can reach for the mouse.
The untruth and guesswork in this thread is mind-boggling.
Let's actually get the answer from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx
To sum up their thoughts:
3
4.0 = Windows 95
4.10 = Windows 98
4.90 = Windows ME
5 = Windows 2000
5.1 = Windows XP
6 = Windows Vista
7 = Windows 7
Yes, it's true that in the dark inner workings of the kernel, and reported on the Command Prompt, Windows 7 internally considers itself to be "6.1". But this is just so software doesn't get upset - as the blog says, the changes are pretty big, much moreso than the changes between Windows 2000 and XP.
The odd thing about this is that their numbering scheme doesn't really make much sense - it's not strictly consumer operating systems (Win2K was for professionals, there was no "Home" edition, ME was the home edition counterpart of the day). What you have to remember is that until XP came out, the two branches of the Windows family were separate: the "consumer" branch being the earliest Windows which only really got off the ground with 3.0, then 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, ME. The other branch was the NT server family which had its initial release called Windows NT 3.1, largely to keep up with consumer family, then had 3.51, then 4.0, then Windows 2000, then XP which brought the branches together (although XP has much more of his mum in him than his dad, if you get my drift).
Let's actually get the answer from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx
To sum up their thoughts:
3
4.0 = Windows 95
4.10 = Windows 98
4.90 = Windows ME
5 = Windows 2000
5.1 = Windows XP
6 = Windows Vista
7 = Windows 7
Yes, it's true that in the dark inner workings of the kernel, and reported on the Command Prompt, Windows 7 internally considers itself to be "6.1". But this is just so software doesn't get upset - as the blog says, the changes are pretty big, much moreso than the changes between Windows 2000 and XP.
The odd thing about this is that their numbering scheme doesn't really make much sense - it's not strictly consumer operating systems (Win2K was for professionals, there was no "Home" edition, ME was the home edition counterpart of the day). What you have to remember is that until XP came out, the two branches of the Windows family were separate: the "consumer" branch being the earliest Windows which only really got off the ground with 3.0, then 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, ME. The other branch was the NT server family which had its initial release called Windows NT 3.1, largely to keep up with consumer family, then had 3.51, then 4.0, then Windows 2000, then XP which brought the branches together (although XP has much more of his mum in him than his dad, if you get my drift).
I don't see how that is broken, everything is divided into sections so that it's not confusing. The Start button isn't supposed to be a closed system, it was designed so that you can access and control the rest of the computer without using explorer, and the search box plays a part in that. If you want to go the old fashioned route and look for things using the folder tree then you still can, but it is much faster these days to use the search box.IMO, that's completely and utterly broken.
Lets just say I want to hear Phil Collins' timeless classic "In the Air Tonight", then I can just type that into the search box and I don't have to bother looking for it in my music folder. Or perhaps I want to listen to a Dire Straits song, then I can type that in and be presented with the folder containing their music along with a list of their songs.
I'm 23, why do you ask?
A few weeks ago I wrote report on software process models and I can't remember what I called it, but I do know that it contained a lot of stuff about the waterfall model. If I type "waterfall" into the search box then there's my project, second item on the list. I find that to be incredibly useful.
You can think of it as a combination of search and run. You can use it as a normal search box if that's all you want it to do, but if you know how then you can use it to do a lot more.But... damn. At least the other one was still a search; this isn't even that!
Windows key then Right button then Return.Under XP I can hit Ctrl-Esc U Enter much quicker than I can reach for the mouse.
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
other people don't even know what the commmand prompt is
Command Prompt? What is this, the Dark Ages? Windows Powershell FTW IMHO!
I like Cygwin better, you can basically do linux-y things on your PC.
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
You mean other people don't pin the command prompt to the taskbar?
other people don't even know what the commmand prompt is
Command Prompt? What is this, the Dark Ages? Windows Powershell FTW IMHO!
Well if Microsoft didn't insist on burying it the bottom of the accessories menu after all who goes further down than system tools
(just confessing I hadn't actually noticed the Powershell shortcut there 
Win 1
Win 2
Win 3.1 (cos it was better)
Win 95
Win XP
Win Vista
Win 7
Simple.
You forgot a few, Win 98, Win ME and Win 2000
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That's the way I figured it too.
I thought 98 and 2k were part of the NT server side of things, therefore didn't include them.Win 1
Win 2
Win 3.1 (cos it was better
Win 95
Win XP
Win Vista
Win 7
Simple.
You forgot a few, Win 98, Win ME and Win 2000
As for ME, a) it was 'supposed' to be 95 enhanced for the new millennium and b) why wouldn't I forget it?
Though now I'm thinking about it, maybe 98 was a genuine OS release and ME was an enhancement for that. In which case drop Win v1 and insert 98.
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