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Why does Worf always say Wheapons ?

Errr.... How do you pronounce it? I've never heard it pronounced any other way.

That's what I thought but I didn't like to say.

I asked an American friend of mine and they pronounce the 'r' and the 't'. They literally say it how it is spelt.... This is completely insane to me, it's the direct equivalent of pronouncing jalepeno with a J, but I guess if they're never taught any different...

I guess it's like saying lef-tenant, we've all got our language quirks.
 
He means "Numbah" as opposed to, ya know, "Number." Silly British people and their silent Rs.

No Brit bashing if you please.
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(After all it was our language first before the yanks got hold of it :lol:)
 
Errr.... How do you pronounce it? I've never heard it pronounced any other way.

That's what I thought but I didn't like to say.

I asked an American friend of mine and they pronounce the 'r' and the 't'. They literally say it how it is spelt.... This is completely insane to me, it's the direct equivalent of pronouncing jalepeno with a J, but I guess if they're never taught any different...

I blame the French and Spanish speakers that assign the wrong sounds our letters. Those Spaniards and Latinos really need to learn how to use an "h" correctly. And the French...oooh...don't get me started on them. How they thought that "eau(x)" should sound like "oh" is beyond me.

Then again, there's the English. What's with all the "augh" and "ough" letters that should be replaced with "o" or "u." Fast food has it right, it should be "drive thru."
 
He means "Numbah" as opposed to, ya know, "Number." Silly British people and their silent Rs.

And then their adding R's to things like when Picard says "Datar" and "Nebular."
No he dosn't. He might pronounce the 'a' with a slightly long 'ah' sound but there is no 'r'

Eh, there's sometimes an R. It's something non-American (usually British and Australian) people do all the time. You probably just don't notice it unless you are, in fact, an American.

The one that sticks out in my head is from "First Contact," where he says, "Mister Datar and I are returning to the ship."
 
And then their adding R's to things like when Picard says "Datar" and "Nebular."
No he dosn't. He might pronounce the 'a' with a slightly long 'ah' sound but there is no 'r'

Eh, there's sometimes an R. It's something non-American (usually British and Australian) people do all the time. You probably just don't notice it unless you are, in fact, an American.

The one that sticks out in my head is from "First Contact," where he says, "Mister Datar and I are returning to the ship."

Yeah that's a quirk of a lot of English accents. The r comes from the fact that it's followed by another vowel. On it's own it 'Data', but if it's followed by 'and' it's "Datarand". It would be the same sound if it was followed by 'is', it would be "Dataris" rather than Data-is.
 
Kind of like when you're supposed to use "an" before words that start with H. English people have a tendency to make the H silent, so "an" makes sense. In America, we tend to pronounce the H, so "an" sounds awkward.

English accent = "an historian," where "hi" is a vowel sound
American accent = "a historian," where "h" is a consonant

It always bugged me when Chakotay would say "an Hirogen" when he was clearly pronouncing the H.
 
He means "Numbah" as opposed to, ya know, "Number." Silly British people and their silent Rs.
Unless they're from Cornwall or Devonshire.

And then their adding R's to things like when Picard says "Datar" and "Nebular."

Not so much adding an "R," but sticking an "R" between words to separate them more clearly. A Brit or a New Englander will pronounce "idea" normally, but they'll say "I had no idear of what was happening."

EDIT: Or, what SonOfMogh said.
 
Maybe it's me and my funking mid-western American accent which is so normalized that people in the media are trained to speak it so that they can be best understood... or something.

But I've no problem saying an r-ending word followed by a voweled word.

"Mr Data and I are returning to the ship."

Just said it. No problems, no clunkiness, nothing.
 
Obviously, we Mid-Westerners have figured out the language better than anyone. It's the reason all of the FRIENDS (except maybe Joey) spoke with a Mid-Western accent despite growing up in New York City.
 
I can see or rather hear, it when the TNG crew goes back in time to our contemporary Earth and need to recrystallize the dilithium crystals.

Whorf to person on street: Nuculear wheapons, nuucuuleaar WHEApons!

Robert
 
I HATE when people add an "r" to idea... a lot of my elementary school teachers did that, but it wasn't just when they had a vowel starting the next word, it was ALL the time.

"I have no idear"

SO aggravating.


Also, I find it funny that everyone keeps saying that people in the media and such are all talking with mid-western accents when they all sound just like the way most everyone I know here in New Hampshire and I speak. :shrug:
 
Obviously, we Mid-Westerners have figured out the language better than anyone. It's the reason all of the FRIENDS (except maybe Joey) spoke with a Mid-Western accent despite growing up in New York City.

Heck, Ross, Monica and even Rachel grew up on Long Island and had some Jewish influences in them. (I know that Ross and Monica were at least "half Jewish" and, I believe, Rachel was supposed to be Jewish.) They should've had a real strong accent. But, yeah, Joey was the only one with something even close to a New York accent.

The General American accent (also sometimes called the Midland Accent) is considered the most normalized accent of American English with no regional peculiarities or influences. It's the dialect of Newscasters as it's the most "normal" and pronounces the words as they're "intended" to be spoken without slurring or adding in unusual sounds.
 
. . . The General American accent (also sometimes called the Midland Accent) is considered the most normalized accent of American English with no regional peculiarities or influences.
It's the “non-regional” American accent that George Carlin said makes you sound “like you come from nowhere.”
 
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