I liked Crystal Pepsi.
"I wanted halibut originally," Groen said. "I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one."
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I never had a Filet-o-fish, so I can't judge it. But given it's McDonald's, I'm quite comfortable thinking it's crap.
"I wanted halibut originally," Groen said. "I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one."
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Cheese with fish just for the Halibut?
I tried it... wasn't crazy about it.I liked Crystal Pepsi.
It's about time Miscellaneous got to the bottom of the truly important issues.
Anyway, here's the story of the Filet-O-Fish and when the cheese was first added (almost immediately after its invention):
Filet-O-Fish tale
After 45 years, this fish sandwich still sticks
February 26, 2007|By The Cincinnati Enquirer
CINCINNATI — Forty-five years ago, Lou Groen's career began its turn from rags to fishes.
Groen, who began his working life as a homeless teenager in the 1930s, was casting about in 1962 for a way to save his foundering hamburger restaurant.
His efforts caught more than a nibble. He created a sandwich that would eventually be consumed at a rate of 300 million a year: the McDonald's Filet-O-Fish.
Groen's restaurant was the Cincinnati area's first McDonald's. His problem: The clientele was heavily Catholic. Back then, most Catholics abstained from meat every Friday, not just during Lent, a 40-day period of repentance that began last week with Ash Wednesday.
"Frisch's [Big Boy] dominated the market, and they had a very good fish sandwich," recalled Groen, now 89.
"I was struggling. The crew was my wife, myself, and a man named George. I did repairs, swept floors, you name it. But that area was 87 percent Catholic. On Fridays we only took in about $75 a day," said Groen, a Catholic himself.
"All our customers were going to Frisch's. So I invented my fish sandwich, developed a special batter, made the tartar sauce and took it to headquarters."
That led to a wager between Groen and McDonald's chief Ray Kroc, who was preparing his own meatless alternative.
"He called his sandwich the Hula Burger," Groen said. "It was a cold bun and a slice of pineapple and that was it.
"Ray said to me, 'Well, Lou, I'm going to put your fish sandwich on [a menu] for a Friday. But I'm going to put my special sandwich on too. Whichever sells the most, that's the one we'll go with.'
"Friday came and the word came out. I won hands down. I sold 350 fish sandwiches that day. Ray never did tell me how his sandwich did."
But the chain compelled Groen to modify the fish recipe.
"I wanted halibut originally," Groen said. "I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-02-26/news/0702260163_1_sandwich-fish-recipe-halibut
It's a big no no among a lot of Italian chefs, restaurants, and mothers to mix seafood with cheese (not that the Filet-O-Fish compares with those meals, but just saying):
http://www.thekitchn.com/the-fish-and-cheese-debate-the-76178
However, the oldest surviving Sicilian recipe is a fish and cheese meal, so there's that:
A little research, however, turned up the oldest surviving Sicilian recipe — from around 400 B.C. — for fish: “Gut. Discard the head, rinse, slice; add cheese and oil.”
And if you read the article, it seems as if some restaurants are breaking the no cheese on seafood tradition:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/magazine/30food-t.html?scp=1&sq=seafood cheese&st=cse&_r=0
And in doing research for this very hard-hitting exposé, I think you're going to find that you're in the minority about the cheese on the Filet-O-Fish, because the vast majority of links on Google were articles and blog posts complaining about how McDonald's reduced the cheese to only half a slice.
So, there you have it. More than anyone ever needs to know about the history of the Filet-O-Fish and cheese on fish dishes.![]()
Curious that you think lobsters are inherently poisonous.
I was referring more to a fast food restaurant's ability to store, handle & prepare seafood properly![]()
Look, Mr. Laser Beam, I've told you before about those damn fish puns, and if you don't cut it out right now I'm going to...
*sees username*
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The McDLT was a stupid idea. What's so great about keeping the burger hot and the garnish cold? I've never heard anyone complain about all the ingredients of a sandwich being served at the same temperature. The gimmick packaging must have cost more than the food.As for some of the menu offerings that failed... I liked the McDLT and the Arch Deluxe.
Sounds like a great meal. I'll be getting you one of these for your birthday.. . . Where I come from, a McD fish sandwich is just an appetizer. The main course would be a Big Mac, with large fries on the side. Beverage is a chocolate shake, and dessert is a hot apple pie. Or two.
The McDLT as a sandwich was a good idea, but the packaging didn't work.The McDLT was a stupid idea. What's so great about keeping the burger hot and the garnish cold? I've never heard anyone complain about all the ingredients of a sandwich being served at the same temperature. The gimmick packaging must have cost more than the food.As for some of the menu offerings that failed... I liked the McDLT and the Arch Deluxe.
Sounds like a great meal. I'll be getting you one of these for your birthday.. . . Where I come from, a McD fish sandwich is just an appetizer. The main course would be a Big Mac, with large fries on the side. Beverage is a chocolate shake, and dessert is a hot apple pie. Or two.
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So you come from the great state of Obesia?Where I come from, a McD fish sandwich is just an appetizer. The main course would be a Big Mac, with large fries on the side. Beverage is a chocolate shake, and dessert is a hot apple pie. Or two.
According to the latest reports, that is now Mexico.So you come from the great state of Obesia?Where I come from, a McD fish sandwich is just an appetizer. The main course would be a Big Mac, with large fries on the side. Beverage is a chocolate shake, and dessert is a hot apple pie. Or two.
Curious that you think lobsters are inherently poisonous.
I was referring more to a fast food restaurant's ability to store, handle & prepare seafood properly![]()
You know there are fast food restaurants that only do seafood?
Look, Mr. Laser Beam, I've told you before about those damn fish puns, and if you don't cut it out right now I'm going to...
*sees username*
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No worries! Months of lurking only to contribute to Cheese and puns. Perhaps I should be banned!![]()
I'm pretty sure i got a clogged artery just from reading this.Filet O Fish has cheese because cheese is awesome. And it hides the taste of the fish.
Where I come from, a McD fish sandwich is just an appetizer. The main course would be a Big Mac, with large fries on the side. Beverage is a chocolate shake, and dessert is a hot apple pie. Or two.
I worked at both McD's and Pizza Hut in high school, back in the dark ages.I was referring more to a fast food restaurant's ability to store, handle & prepare seafood properly![]()
You know there are fast food restaurants that only do seafood?
Too true. Long John Silvers for one, though all the ones around here are paired with an A&W, KFC or another Pepsico brand. And I love LJS fish & chicken.
Where I've actually gotten food poisoning from is Popeye's & Pizza Hut. Not sure if I've ever tried the McD's fish sandwich.
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