Why does Picard call for a confrence while engaged with enemy?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by LK3185, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. LK3185

    LK3185 Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    So I just recently finished "Q Who" the first Borg appearance and this has been bugging me a little. Something i've seen before, but just I don't understand. Picard calls for a meeting with all his bridge officers or whoever while a enemy ship is readying itself to attack again. I'm fairly new to trek, watching all the series in order, only knowing a few things by what i've seen and heard... So please bear with me, but why would a captain leave themselves exposed like that? I guess obvious answer, others we don't see are at the bridge but still if a surprise attack happens while Picard is in a briefing, he himself will be caught off guard.

    Seems like bad planning to me.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. WraithDukat

    WraithDukat Captain Captain

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    They do it numerous times, you're right it's a daft idea. It's parodied in a few things I've seen. I don't know what the writers were thinking here, fair enough call your team in for opinions but do it on the bridge.
     
  3. Kronos

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    It's to explain things to us the audience.
     
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  4. LK3185

    LK3185 Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    That's my thinking. Picard mutes calls with the viewer when talking to potential hostiles and asks for opinions but in a battle, its 'lets go the war room while we got some free time"

    I know biggest reason is for an info dump but I just feel it makes the Captain look bad.
     
  5. Timo

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    It's at the root of TNG, sort of: our heroes fly such a big ship that they can afford to get shot at while deciding whether to shoot back.

    Which is probably my most favorite thing about TNG. "Heroes" who shoot their enemies dead under the excuse that they are underdog heroes who must "do unto others before others do unto them" are... well, nothing short of disgusting. Picard doesn't have that flimsy excuse for killing his enemies; he must actually apply morals and ethics for acting.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  6. BigDaveX

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    Whatever the writers' intention for the crew having a conference right after the attack, given that they had been having a conference right before they were attacked, it ends up coming across as Picard saying "Right, now that the Borg have stopped carving chunks out of the ship, let's get back to the meeting they so rudely interrupted." I'm not sure whether that's ridiculous, awesome, or awesomely ridiculous.
     
  7. WraithDukat

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    To be fair the conference room is adjacent to the Bridge so they can get straight back if they have to. It still doesn't right with me though, those few seconds could be crucial.
     
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  8. Herbert

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    It is an odd scene. You would think the prudent thing to do would be to take the opportunity to put some distance between themselves and the cube. They still could have had their conference while hightailing it out of there.
     
  9. Timo

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    It's noteworthy that the Borg for their part are neither shooting at 'em any longer, nor trying to withdraw. A conventional enemy would do one or the other (or perhaps ask for parley or start evacuating or self-destructing). It's a very odd situation for our heroes, and grounds for relative inaction as well.

    How do you tell if an enemy remains a threat when there are no telltales? They can't tell if the enemy is dead because it never was alive to them, say.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  10. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But not if they have given standing orders to their relief. The people manning their posts are presumably top shelf officers in their own right. Having said that, it's still a little daft to have all of the ship's top 3 commanding officers away from the bridge simultaneously. What's the point of having a 2nd & 3rd in command, if not to have at least one of them in command during a crisis? They ARE the relief officers for that post. Especially if you consider their level of shipwide communications. Data could literally be in the captain's chair & an audio/video feed of him could be piped to the briefing room viewscreen, thus having him there in the room still able to contribute.

    I add this one to the list of stuff they do that's more dramatic effect than logic, like the fact that they almost never run thru the corridors, to an onboard crisis. It's always power walking lol
     
  11. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Commodore Commodore

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    Okay, but I hate to break this to everyone,
    I mean, it IS only a TV show.
    It's not real.
    But I thought that they did it because the Borg was pretty much just sitting there it doing anything.
     
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  12. Herbert

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    You should keep a copy of this and just post it in every thread on this board. :D
     
  13. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Commodore Commodore

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    It worries me that some people fear for the safety of the crew and the ship.:sigh:
    :nyah:
     
  14. LK3185

    LK3185 Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I would HOPE everyone understands its just a show. If they don't do the scene that way, Then Q doesn't show up on the viewer to taunt them, but there is another way to do it, logically. That was the reason for the post. Its still a wonderful episode. I know of the Borg but first time really watching them in action. Remind me of Cybermen in Doctor who.
     
  15. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Commodore Commodore

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    I love the Borg episodes.
    The first time I saw the first Borg episode I had nightmares that night after like an hour of just being freaked out.
    The scene where they showed them all in their little charging stations. Totally gave me the willies!
    I like to think outer space would have human type aliens but I think it would be just as likely that aliens would look like lobsters or big spiders or freaky insects or something even worse.
    I had a really bad nightmare one time that Earth was invaded and the aliens looked pretty much like lobsters, only like 6 ft tall ones. And they just wanted us for food!
     
  16. Mojochi

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    & personally I have no problem hand waving that one away with that very excuse. You gotta do a little suspension of disbelief now & again. Mostly, my comment reflects that there was in fact a way to do it almost exactly the same, & still be a little more logical too. I mean, after all, this is probably not the only example of them doing this
     
  17. JirinPanthosa

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    TNG just has a 'Sit back and plan carefully' way of going about things. It would make more sense to have those careful deliberations on the bridge, yes.
     
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    We'll just take them down with our secret weapon: melted butter.
     
  19. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Commodore Commodore

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    LOL
    I watched the episode " I don't remember the title" where they hit a quantum filiment or whatever and Picard is stuck in the turbo lift with the kids.
    So left on the bridge is Troi, O'Brien, Ro and Some other guy.
    The three of them go into the conference room and discuss what they should do.
    [eyeroll]
    Why did they go in the conference room?
    Why leave that one guy out of any decisions?
    [total eyeroll]
     
  20. tharpdevenport

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    That's a good point, but it just made me realize: Why even go the Conference Room? What are they going to say there that can't be said a few steps away on the Bridge in front of what few non senior crew members present?
     
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