Why did worf howl to mark Gownrons passing?

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Ideas if anyone does the howl when a warships shot down with all hands aboard.

I don't think so. The howl appears to be a personal, one-on-one action.

Worf is a very traditionalist Klingon, for one who was raised on Earth.

I see Worf as deliberately trying to "look Klingon" for precisely that reason. He thinks he has to be more Klingon than Klingons, to make up for his relative lack of exposure to his native culture.

In other words, he has things to prove.

 

[kkt]

Yes, very much so. Like people in an outpost or military base away from their home often feel they must behave with more symbols of patriotism than they would if they were at home.

 

[Tenacity]

Worf howled because he realized that the five quid he spotted Gownron would likely never be paid back.

 

[Oddish]

Ideas if anyone does the howl when a warships shot down with all hands aboard.

With that many warriors coming, maybe they figure the dead don't have to be warned!

 

[publiusr]

In space, no one can hear you howl

 

[Oddish]

Truth be told, I try to think about that episode as little as possible. It transforms Gowron's character for the worse. And, the notion that you can defeat the chancellor of the Empire and then just give the job to the person you like doesn't really sit well with me. I find it hard to believe that Martok's chancellorship would be accepted, battle proven leader or no.

 

[kkt]

I'm sure it helped the Martok was a war hero, who would be a good choice for chancellor if Gowron died of natural causes.

 

[Farscape One]

More than that, Martok was a soldier who climbed up the ranks from below the beginning. He earned the respect of all he commanded, including those in Starfleet who worked with him. He's the best choice for leader of the Empire.

And truthfully, he's my favorite Klingon. Even more so than Worf.

 

[somebuddyX]

When Way of the Warrior aired I figured "fake" Martok was Gowron's chief of the military, so it was weird to me to see "real" Martok having to climb the ranks rather than just being slotted back into a similar role, and so after Worf gave him the leadership I figured all the other Klingons would think he was pretty qualified for the job.
Like if Will Bailey challenged President Bartlett to a bat'leth fight and then after he'd killed him passed the job to Admiral Fitzwallace. Even Toby would think it's good choice.

 

[Farscape One]

Regarding his climb, I was referring to his history when he was younger, when Kor refused him a commission. He likely got back to being a General shortly after escaping prison... almost certainly got clout again after the events of "SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE". Definitely was a lead general by the time DS9 was retaken. He was made Supreme Commander of one of the fleets in the beginning of "YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED".

No matter how you slice it, he's earned all his respect and victories.

 

[Timo]

When Way of the Warrior aired I figured "fake" Martok was Gowron's chief of the military, so it was weird to me to see "real" Martok having to climb the ranks rather than just being slotted back into a similar role

Indeed. But TNG had made a big deal of Klingons really despising those who had let themselves be captured; it was logical for Martok to get demerit from that, too.

All the more glory to him for eventually making it back to a commanding position, then.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Gelnon]

Worf is a very traditionalist Klingon, for one who was raised on Earth.

The most honorable klingon about according to Dax.

 

[Sci]

Truth be told, I try to think about that episode as little as possible. It transforms Gowron's character for the worse. And, the notion that you can defeat the chancellor of the Empire and then just give the job to the person you like doesn't really sit well with me. I find it hard to believe that Martok's chancellorship would be accepted, battle proven leader or no.

Well, first off, Gowron was never exactly the most honorable dude in the world. He was a schemer even as far back as TNG.

Secondly, remember that the reason Gowron started forcing Martok to go on suicide missions that were doomed to fail was that he was afraid Martok had become so widely beloved in the Empire that he could threaten Gowron's position as Chancellor. So if he's already so popular that he's a threat, it makes sense that he would be able to become Chancellor.

For whatever it's worth, actor J.G. Hertzler co-wrote a duology about Martok's early reign with Jeffrey Lang entitled The Left Hand of Destiny; it's about Martok returning to Qo'noS and facing a threat to his position very early on.

Regarding his climb, I was referring to his history when he was younger, when Kor refused him a commission. He likely got back to being a General shortly after escaping prison... almost certainly got clout again after the events of "SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE". Definitely was a lead general by the time DS9 was retaken. He was made Supreme Commander of one of the fleets in the beginning of "YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED".

Yep! As Supreme Commander of the Ninth Fleet, Martok was in fact technically Sisko's and Ross's superior officer. You could compare it to Dwight D. Eisenhower's position as Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces during World War II.