Why did Magneto call his group the 'Evil Brotherhood of Mutants'?
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IIRC, Days of Future Past was John Byrne's baby. Claremont just provided the script. Byrne woud be the last person to reimagine Magneto as a Holocaust survivor.
I read an article where John admitted that he had consciously forgotten that he had seen Day of the Daleks a few years before he wrote days of Future Past.
The turnaround in the depiction of Magneto began in Uncanny X-Men #150 (ca. 1981 I think), less than a year after DOFP. Magneto almost kills Kitty and begins to doubt his methods. I think he brings up the Auschwitz connection in that scene.
#150 is when Eric sunk a Russian Submarine.
200 sailors dead.
The defacto Leader of Mutantdom declared war on Soviet Russia.
There should have been more blowback on that.
Death Camps, even.
200 sailors dead.
The defacto Leader of Mutantdom declared war on Soviet Russia.
There should have been more blowback on that.
Death Camps, even.
Quite possibly. Writing is a funny game.
That's my take on it, too. Sort of Magneto saying, "You think Mutants are evil, well, fine, we're the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, so how do you like them apples?
Or a, "They want Evil Mutants? We'll show them evil mutants!"
At the very least a sort of, "Those like us are always seen as 'evil' at the time, but history will view us as something else. So, let us be 'evil,' and let history be the judge."
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Taking over military bases and small countries sure won't help with a positive judgement. Nor will spouting a philosophy of repression, subjugation and slavery.
I think I remember Eric trying to rationalize that... But really? What are 5 mutants going to do with a military base, god forbid the entire country?
5 people with 7 million hectares to call their own, after they have kicked out 20 million humans into the ocean?
I honestly have to wonder if Charles wasn't secretly putting stupid idea's into Eric's head constantly, to make his X-Men look awesome.
5 people with 7 million hectares to call their own, after they have kicked out 20 million humans into the ocean?
I honestly have to wonder if Charles wasn't secretly putting stupid idea's into Eric's head constantly, to make his X-Men look awesome.
Unless, he succeeds and in the future, history is written by mutants who live in peace now that Homo Sapiens are no longer a threat to their kind.
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Long range planning was never Magneto's strong suit.
Lets examine the original roster.
Magneto: "I am your brother Wanda and Pietro, not your father, no not your father at all... WE ARE ALL BROTHERS! And Toad, Wanda is your sister, so stop the hell looking at her like that, which goes double for you Mastermind because you're triple the age of Wanda( and Jean!) so stop trying to seduce the children and please think of these exceptional young women as your brothers, not jail bait because jail for a paedophile is not a nice place."
(Jason has two daughters. Lady Mastermind and Mastermind (II). I thought they were the same person. Eric should date one of them so that Wyngard to visualize how icky the first days in the beginning had been for Eric every time he saw Jason licking his lips whenever Wanda entered a room... The X-Man Pixie is also Wyngard's daughter!? Golly this guy gets around! )
I really don't get Mastermind and Toad on this "team".
Mastermind is far too powerful with an adroit empowered personality that he would not take shit from Magneto or play second fiddle unless their was a magnificent pay-off at the end... Although he was working at a carnival when Magneto found him, maybe he hadn't grown up into a huge asshole (Dark Phoenix saga already!) yet and he was only a medium sized asshole?
(Maybe Magneto's plan was to sell the missiles on the base at Cape Citidel to terrorists and watch the humans kill each other? The death of humanity being the end game and not the money. Money is just used to bait the trap. If someone gives you half a dozen nuclear weapons, something hinky is going on, but then 6 atomic weapons used prejudicially could easily collapse the world economy and destroy the world geopolitically while leaving a plentiful remaining healthy stock of humans left over to make mutant babies on a relatively unscathed planet.)
Did Toad have the acid spit and tensile tongue in the beginning?
All he could do was jump and utilize his IQ of 80.
Of course, one look at Toad and Congress was going to first halve and then quarter the black budget dedicated to the creation of Sentinel factories and other final solutions to the Mutant Question.
In that right, Toad was far more powerful and valuable to the cause than Magneto.
Magneto: "I am your brother Wanda and Pietro, not your father, no not your father at all... WE ARE ALL BROTHERS! And Toad, Wanda is your sister, so stop the hell looking at her like that, which goes double for you Mastermind because you're triple the age of Wanda( and Jean!) so stop trying to seduce the children and please think of these exceptional young women as your brothers, not jail bait because jail for a paedophile is not a nice place."
(Jason has two daughters. Lady Mastermind and Mastermind (II). I thought they were the same person. Eric should date one of them so that Wyngard to visualize how icky the first days in the beginning had been for Eric every time he saw Jason licking his lips whenever Wanda entered a room... The X-Man Pixie is also Wyngard's daughter!? Golly this guy gets around! )
I really don't get Mastermind and Toad on this "team".
Mastermind is far too powerful with an adroit empowered personality that he would not take shit from Magneto or play second fiddle unless their was a magnificent pay-off at the end... Although he was working at a carnival when Magneto found him, maybe he hadn't grown up into a huge asshole (Dark Phoenix saga already!) yet and he was only a medium sized asshole?
(Maybe Magneto's plan was to sell the missiles on the base at Cape Citidel to terrorists and watch the humans kill each other? The death of humanity being the end game and not the money. Money is just used to bait the trap. If someone gives you half a dozen nuclear weapons, something hinky is going on, but then 6 atomic weapons used prejudicially could easily collapse the world economy and destroy the world geopolitically while leaving a plentiful remaining healthy stock of humans left over to make mutant babies on a relatively unscathed planet.)
Did Toad have the acid spit and tensile tongue in the beginning?
All he could do was jump and utilize his IQ of 80.
Of course, one look at Toad and Congress was going to first halve and then quarter the black budget dedicated to the creation of Sentinel factories and other final solutions to the Mutant Question.
In that right, Toad was far more powerful and valuable to the cause than Magneto.
And Mortimer had to go through all that rigmarole of the world ####ing on him, to wind up in an odd relationship with Sam Guthrie's little baby sister who happens, thanks to Marvel-Time be an adult.
So you didn't know that when X-Men and the Wolverine set up shop succeeding the latest death of Charles Xavier, that the Toad signed on as the Chief (and only) Janitor to the Jean Grey School?
It's kinda funny.
Chris Bachalo is drawing Alien invasions, Sentinel Strikes, crashing Hellicarriers on the font lawns of the school where in the back ground like from a "Where's Waldo?" book, you can usually find Toad grumbling about being unappreciated, plunging a toilet or mopping something.
It's kinda funny.
Chris Bachalo is drawing Alien invasions, Sentinel Strikes, crashing Hellicarriers on the font lawns of the school where in the back ground like from a "Where's Waldo?" book, you can usually find Toad grumbling about being unappreciated, plunging a toilet or mopping something.
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