Why are people attracted to movies made by Michael Bay

[Base_Delta_Zero]

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So, verdict is in ... this movie sucked balls.

They toned down the retarded humor bits, but it was still at least an hour too long and booooooorrriiiing. The first half was all set-up with new characters I didn't want to know, so that the second half could be a never ending assault on Chicago.

They should never have gotten rid of Megan Fox. I liked the Brit chick well enough, but introducing her, building her relationship with Sam, etc. took up so much time. If they'd kept Fox, you'd have had two movies of back story that could be referenced without slowing the plot.

There were definitely some good scenes, the paradrop (from the previews) into Chicago was sweet, the final assault was epic, the 60s Moon landing stuff was cool (Except for the hideous Kennedy CGI which looked, I shit you not, like a South Park parody. You, know, when they cut a picture of like Tom Cruise's head out of a magazine and make the mouth move on a stick-figure body. It was bad.)

It was cool to hear Nemoy ham it up as the mustache guy and see Soundwave and Shockwave wreck shit.

The dialogue was fun for the most part, too, but in the end, the thing was an overly-long snooze-fest and just not anywhere near the awesome of the first film. I just don't get how they keep fucking this up. It's a Transformers movie - making the plots more complex and adding more nameless human characters is not how you make it better.

C- / This one isn't going in the DVD collection (along with Bad Boys II and Transformers 2)

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I'll also say they missed some opportunities when they didn't use the Apache, Osprey or those pimp classic cars as Transformer templates. Or fuck, the Space Shuttle! I know Astrotrain was a Decepticon, but come on - you have a shuttle in a Transformers movie and you don't use it for one? Hell, they could even have had Astrotrain intercept the Autobot shuttle in low orbit instead of Starscream.

 

[Dream]

^ Did you mean to post that review in the TF3 grading topic?

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

No. I don't even want to go in that thread, I get pissed off in review threads.

And I had been praising Bay movies in this thread, so I figured I'd come back and talk a bit about one I didn't enjoy very much.

 

[Goliath]

But to be honest...I am disappointed in myself for ever seeing another Michael Bay movie after Bad Boys II.

Funny--that was the last Michael Bay movie I ever saw.

I'm glad to hear I made the right decision.

 

[God Magnus]

You know what the funny thing is? Bay is actually a really good shooter. He wasn't always all shakey cams and millisecond edits. When he's calmed down, he shoots great action. Transformers 3 shows that...there's some really well shot and put together action beats in that movie.

I thought this might have been my imagination initially, but other friends mentioned this as well about TF3. His action was fantastic this time out. One of my friends suggested his filming "shaky" cam thing may have been toned down a bit by the types of cameras he was using for the 3D this time. I'm not sure if that's a factor or not, but I found it interesting that this time out I could distinguish characters from each other a lot better during the battles.

 

[Klaus]

But to be honest...I am disappointed in myself for ever seeing another Michael Bay movie after Bad Boys II.

Funny--that was the last Michael Bay movie I ever saw.

I'm glad to hear I made the right decision.

I stopped at The Rock, which is the only one I've seen, thank the Valar. I tried to convince my significant other that it counted as a chick flick because Connery and Cage were the only reasons she wanted to see it. Didn't work.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Michael Bay is the Nickelback of the film world, and vice versa of the music world. If you can figure out the popularity one, you've figured out the other.

I, however, can't figure out the popularity of either of them.

Bay at least is distinctive and recognisable. Nicklecack are just bland boring rock-by-numbers.

 

[Ninjacore]

Michael Bay is the Nickelback of the film world, and vice versa of the music world. If you can figure out the popularity one, you've figured out the other.

I, however, can't figure out the popularity of either of them.

Bay at least is distinctive and recognisable. Nicklecack are just bland boring rock-by-numbers.

I like Nickelback ...

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ You know you didn't just think that in your head, don't you?

 

[Ninjacore]

^ You know you didn't just think that in your head, don't you?

If today was your last day, one of my favorite songs.

 

[Captaindemotion]

To each their own.

 

[FordSVT]

There is one scene in the Transformers trailer 3 trailer where some robot flips and somersaults up along the side of a building and comes down with two people in his hands. It took me seeing the trailer 4 times to figure out what it was. First I didn't know it was a robot jumping on the building, then I didn't know what orientation and rotation he was in, then I finally saw he did all that to apparently rescue some itty bitty cgi people. It gave me a headache.

I really don't know how to say this without coming across as insulting or flaming, but I think that some people simply have a more limited ability to see and interpret visual information. I had no problem knowing exactly what was going on the first time I saw that, very clearly. He ran up the wall. I had no problem with the scenes everyone complained about in the first movie either, like the Bumblebee versus Barricade fight. I have no problem watching 3D movies either, and neither does a single person I know in real life, but on this board and others on the Internet a lot of people complain about getting headaches. I would guess you are probably not very good at sports and fast, twitchy video games as well.

I think a small percentage of the population shouldn't even be driving a car, if they have to watch a movie scene a half dozen times just to figure out what they are looking at and 3D makes them puke.

That turned into a more general rant I've had bottled up for a while than a specific criticism toward you KB24, apologies.

 

[SPCTRE]

Splosions.

Also: Slowmo-splosions.

Stimulus satiation in general.

 

[Greylock Crescent]

Splosions.

Also: Slowmo-splosions.

Also also: T & A
Also also also: slowmo T & A

 

[Ninjacore]

Big boom boom pleases idiotic masses...

 

[SPCTRE]

Splosions.

Also: Slowmo-splosions.

Also also: T & A
Also also also: slowmo T & A

True, true.

 

[Frontier]

Why are some infants and animals enthralled by shiny objects?

Same reason.

Michael Bay: All Flash, No Substance.

 

[FordSVT]

I think Michael Bay's greatest accomplishment is making millions of internet nerds feel good about themselves by bashing his movies and the "idiots" who sometimes enjoy them, while they continue to pay to see his movies anyway.

edit: something else to add.

The OP's question "Why are people attracted to movies made by Michael Bay" isn't really a fair one. I, for example, am not attracted to movies made by Michael Bay. I don't know anyone who is like, "I GOTTA SEE THAT BECAUSE BAY DIRECTED IT". I liked the first TF movie, hated the second, liked the 3rd. Hated Pearl Harbor. Liked Armageddon (despite its cheesy flaws), liked Bad Boys, hated Bad Boys two. The Rock was great. So he's really hit or miss for me. I just like good movies in general, and when he makes a movie I like, I like it. Doesn't matter who made it. If you don't like his style of directing, that's OK, but he pushes technical envelopes and isn't afraid to make (or admit to) making mistakes. You may hate some of his shots, but then again, some of the shots he makes are shots no one else has even tried before, and I can appreciate that.