Why are members/fans? so rude to each other?

[Thrawn]

Speaking of fan manners, then, Rush, regardless of political philosophy, how do you justify a long post in a thread saying that fans should be more polite and less insulting, paired with a signature that insults most of them?

If "we do not fear words", then how can you go on a tirade about others being rude with their words?

 

[ronny]

MASSIVE EDIT - basically taking the post out. upon further reflection i'll set a PM to the mods instead of turning this into a complaint thread.

 

[Thrawn]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that people can make whatever statements they want to; I don't have any objection to either thing you mentioned, ronny. I just object to the hypocrisy, lecturing other people about how to be less insulting while intentionally insulting them.

 

[William Leisner]

I also saw an avatar that's a McCain/Palin ad. Is that allowed?

Well, they were allowed four years ago.

 

[PaulSimpson]

I also saw an avatar that's a McCain/Palin ad. Is that allowed?

Well, they were allowed four years ago.

Damn that erratic Guardian of Forever sending them through four years early!

 

[startrekfiero]

I also saw an avatar that's a McCain/Palin ad. Is that allowed?

Well, they were allowed four years ago.

Damn that erratic Guardian of Forever sending them through four years early!

LOL Yeah, I had to re-read that one a couple times myself as my first thought was the same as yours

 

[Therin of Andor]

If "we do not fear words", then how can you go on a tirade about others being rude with their words?

I rarely notice the little mottos at the bottom of the regulars' posts, but it's a weird feeling when the quote underlines the point the poster was trying to make, or when seems to say the exact opposite of the sentiment expressed in a post.

 

[Steve Roby]

For the benefit of people who haven't made this discovery yet, when you encounter people who are boorish, immature, intellectually dishonest, and/or otherwise disagreeable, you can choose to ignore them. Go to your profile, then to your User CP (Control Panel) near the top left, scroll down until you see Edit Ignore List, click on that, and type the cad's name in the Add a Member to Your List... box. Henceforth you will see that said person has posted but you will not see their messages, just the words "This message is hidden because Disagreeable Boor is on your ignore list."

The downside with using a bozofilter like this is that the person(s) whose posts you're ignoring may be making claims that deserve refutation, and you may seem to be giving tacit assent by not replying. But vita brevis, arse pains longa, and if other people are gulled, you can always offer clarification in response to their posts. Or, if responses suggest that the person in question somehow made a cogent and useful remark, you have the option to choose to read the post after all. Otherwise, simply move on and forget them.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Go to your profile, then to your User CP (Control Panel) near the top left, scroll down until you see Edit Ignore List, click on that, and type the cad's name in the Add a Member to Your List... box.

Hello? Anyone there? Hellooooooooooo?????

I feel so... alone.

 

[Lorraine Anderson]

Hello? Anyone there? Hellooooooooooo?????

I feel so... alone.

 

[Rush Limborg]

As far as my motto is concerned, it's purely tongue-in-cheek, as are the vast majority of mottos here, I understand.

When I discovered this verse, my eyes widened, and I burst into laughter.

Now, it was never my intention to offend with this motto. The joke all rides on the fact that today, we use the terms "left" and "right" in a political sense. And that the Bible is, apparently, legitimizing politics, should be amusing!

And consider: As I said before, countless posters have used mottos which are, IMHO, far more offensive.

Now, considering how the motto has apparently caused a huge controversy, I will therefore replace it indefinitly, until all this is but a vague memory.

This will therefore be my last post with my original motto...for now, at least.

 

[Thrawn]

Fair enough, and thank you.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Fair enough, and thank you.

Hey, you are welcome!

Now... about that Ignore list.... I sure hope no one...carried that out, now did they?

 

[Lorraine Anderson]

I just love listening to paranoia running rampant... umm... is anybody there? Can you hear me now?

 

[Rush Limborg]

The downside with using a bozofilter like this is that the person(s) whose posts you're ignoring may be making claims that deserve refutation, and you may seem to be giving tacit assent by not replying.

And, of course, the bloke as likely as not writes some... pretty worthwhile posts. Non-political, of course. You may be inadvertantly deleating things that you would actually enjoy!

Myself? Of course there are posters here who have engaged in epic battles with yours truly. But, thanks to good ol' EMH, no one's lost a limb, as of yet. I still read their posts, because in general, the subjects they discuss are pretty good!

Here's my advice. Rather than hit "Ignore", skim over the post. And respond only of you feel that the subject can not be ignored.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Can you hear me now?

GOOD!

 

[KRAD]

"Paranoid? Is that what they're saying about me now?" ---Rorschach, Watchmen

 

[Rush Limborg]

"Go ahead."
"What?"
"Say it."
"What?"
"You were gonna call me a N____R, weren't you?"
"No, I wasn't gonna--"
"Yes you were!"
"NO I WASN'T!"
"Well, then, what WERE you gonna say?"
"A__-H___!!!"

---Samuel Jackson and Bruce Willis, Die Hard With A Vengence.

 

[Ktrek]

It has been interesting to follow the extremes this thread has taken and much very irrelevant to my initial inquiry. I often wonder when people post if they ever take the time to think about how others may perceive what they have written and if they really want to come across in the manner they have? I certainly have no complaint about interesting and heated debates as they can sometimes be most helpful but it seems that inevitably the debates become personal and instead of addressing the issues they attack the person.

Still, my main concern was why certain people seem to think it is necessary to demean and speak down to other members? There is no need to treat other persons with disrespect and bad manners. Unfortunately it seems that it's a few outspoken ones who take on these characteristics and thus they tend to command a more dominant presence with few if any ever challenging their behavior, myself included.

Kevin

 

[Thrawn]

There is no right to never be offended. No one has the ability to demand that they never get their feelings hurt. Sure, we can and probably should all try to be as respectful as possible, but the fact of the matter is what you consider offensive is based on your own personal standards, which are quite distinct from my own and anyone else's.

For instance, Ktrek, I find your post slightly offensive as written, implying that you know better than those who find it "necessary" to speak down to other members. (For the record: no one finds it necessary. Posting here isn't necessary in any form. We find it interesting, diverting, or worth saying. But moving on.) Obviously your post was not intended in an insulting way, and I ascribe no malice to you. But the phrase "holier than thou" is hardly uncommon, and I regret to inform you that you are coming off that way a bit.

Now, I'm not intending this to be a personal attack - I have nothing against you, I swear. It just happens to be a really good example of why "can't we all just get along?" doesn't work. People are different, people have different ideas of what lines should be crossed, and compounding those differences on messageboards we have the bonus of frequent misinterpretations due to the ambiguity of written text.

This board is about as good as it gets, really. And honestly? If everyone tried to be as politically correct as you, I think I'd find it a much less interesting place.

To a certain extent, I'm glad your voice is present; it's always good to hear the other side of things. But debating "some people might be offended" in the abstract, I think, is ultimately counterproductive. If you personally are offended, there are mods and PMs, etc, for you to say so. Expressing this kind of generic, mild, undirected rebuke seems condescending and unnecessary to me.

I apologize if you find this post offensive, genuinely. You have shown great honesty, so I am trying to do the same in return.