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whos your fave?

Who's your favorite main character?


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I picked B'Elanna but her and Tom are equally my favorite...of course! Janeway is a close third (or second depending on how you look at it).

Melissa
 
Hmmm. My number 1 favorite character was Tom Paris cause I thought he was hot ;), but I also have a soft spot for Vulcans, so Tuvok gets my number 2 sslot.
 
My two favorites were, imo, also the best characters: Seven and the Doctor. It's a hard choice for me between those two, but right now, it's Seven. The Doctor was essentially Data all over again with a prickly personality, even Robert Picardo said so. Seven, on the other hand, I thought she was more original. They were both great characters though, two of the best in ST imo.

On the next tier of good characters, I'd put Tom, B'lanna, Janeway, and Tuvok.

Those are the characters I liked.

Chakotay had an interesting background and there was a lot more they could've done with him, but the writers pretty much kicked him to the curb, maybe because Beltran acted like such a jerk.

Neelix, Kes, and Kim all sucked imo. It's too bad they didn't clean house and get rid of Neelix and Kim along with Kes. And throw Chakotay in too. Tuvok would've made a better first officer.
 
Date and the Doctor were very different, with very different issues

They were both artificial people trying to become more human and many of the Doctor's stories and issues were already explored on TNG with Data. Even Robert Picardo said that.

That said, in character and physiology they were very different, I agree. I didn't mind seeing those same issues explored with a very different character on VOY, especially since that character, imo, was one of the best ever in ST played by a great actor like Picardo.

Similarly, while B'lanna is somewhat similar to Spock in having a pedigree she wasn't happy about and to Worf with having a Klingon heritage, I thought she was significantly different from the two of them to be an interesting character in her own right.

Tuvok, though, I think he was a bit too similar to Spock, despite what some people have pointed out about him, i.e. his cynicism which was reflected in his choice of careers and his career-path in SF, not having a side of him that he was ashamed off, like Spock was. I still liked the character, and, truthfully, I'm not sure what else you could do to make him more different from Spock and whether that would've been a good thing, i.e. would I have liked that? I did like Tim Russ' Tuvok a lot and I wish they'd done a lot more with him.

Finally, Janeway's been said by both the writers and some fans to be more like Kirk than Picard. I don't know about that. In the sense she is more shoot from the hip and less staid than Picard and goes on the away teams, I"d say yes. However, I've also seen her being a stickler for principles sometimes, like Picard, and, at other times, it appears she throws them to the wind and even does stuff Kirk would never think of doing (i.e. wanting to execute one of the Equinox's crew and actively changing time for a few lives in Endgame). Maybe that's what Ron Moore was referring to when he said that Janeway's characterization appeared inconsistent. Whatever, I think, in the end, that Janeway wasn't like Picard or Kirk, which was a good thing for VOY. I think the writers could've done a better job defining her character, but Kate Mulgrew luckily was such a good actress that she won me over despite sometimes having weak writing for her character. I think she was very well cast as Janeway.
 
Date and the Doctor were very different, with very different issues

They were both artificial people trying to become more human and many of the Doctor's stories and issues were already explored on TNG with Data. Even Robert Picardo said that.

I disagree. Data had the respect and equal treatment of everyone in his crew. His main goal was to be human

The Doctor never wanted to be human, what he wanted was the respect and equal treatment from his crew. He even said that he thought being a hologram was better than being human
 
Date and the Doctor were very different, with very different issues

They were both artificial people trying to become more human and many of the Doctor's stories and issues were already explored on TNG with Data. Even Robert Picardo said that.

I disagree. Data had the respect and equal treatment of everyone in his crew. His main goal was to be human

The Doctor never wanted to be human, what he wanted was the respect and equal treatment from his crew. He even said that he thought being a hologram was better than being human

In other words, the Doctor wanted to be treated the same way the humans and other sentients on the ship were treated: as a real person.

He also explored the human condition with his own family, romantic relationships, the arts (music), photography.

And then he wanted the same "human" rights as everyone else.

It looks like he wanted to become more human to me.
 
no, it's not the same. Data wanted to be human, he saw himself as beneath them. The doctor wanted to be treated more than a walking tricorder, but he never wanted to be human, he saw himself as above humans
 
Wow, what a big difference. The doctor felt he was superior to humans in some ways. Data was definitely superior physically and mentally to humans as well. Still another similarity between the two characters: the benefits of being artificial.

In short: they were both artificial beings who wanted to be more than the sum of their parts and that involved exploring the human condition and wanting the same rights as humans.

They were different in they physical sense and definitely in personality, but, in the thematic sense, they were similar.
 
if you could only get past your bias of Voyager being nothing more than TNG v2 you would see what I'm talking about. Oh well, I'm not going to try to make you change your mind about anything
 
if you could only get past your bias of Voyager being nothing more than TNG v2 you would see what I'm talking about. Oh well, I'm not going to try to make you change your mind about anything

Well, I could say the same thing about you. You're biased for VOY.

But I won't because you're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to mine.

There's no reason or call for the hostility, accusing me of having a bias. On the contrary, I don't think I have much of one at all. I've seen all the ST shows except for ENT and I've read a ton of books, so I'm very well informed wrt ST. Plus, I've read a lot of hard sf books and seen a lot of other sci-fi series. So, I have a lot of knowledge wrt sci-fi and ST in particular with which to judge the content of VOY.

I believe my opinions are largely objective and definitely well-informed, based on a direct comparison of VOY with ST, TNG, DS9 and also, Ron Moore's BSG. IMO, VOY is largely derivative of TNG based on its A/B plot formula, some of the characters, the sets (mostly repainted TNG sets), treatment, many of the same writers and producers (Berman, Braga, Pillar) and the stated intent of the producers and Paramount to create a new show to replace TNG to get back the fans who didn't take to DS9 station-based ST. All these facts are on record in books and interviews.

It's like you're taking this too personally or something. Yeah, I didn't think VOY was as good as ST, TNG, and DS9. I didn't think it was very original either, it mostly looked like TNG all over again when it could have been something significantly different. Why wasn't it as good and why wasn't it as original? Because Paramount, Moore, and Braga didn't want to stray too far from TNG in fear of losing that audience. That's what became clear to me on reading their interviews.

I generally found a lot to like in VOY anyway, even if I felt like I'd seen a lot of it before. I'm sorry you don't agree with me regarding how great or original VOY was, but that's the way I feel, so please leave off.
 
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Sorry, rocketboy, but I have to agree with Mrs Paris' view that the EMH was very different from Data. Data was the standard robot basically dealing with I, Robot issues. The EMH took it a step further and assumed equality (if not superiority) from the start. Frankly, Data was dull - read one android story and you've read them all. The EMH approached the issue of sentience from a new angle. I've also read a ton of hard sci-fi and the EMH managed to keep me entertained despite all the robot stories I've taken in, which is more than I can say for Data.

There's no reason or call for the hostility, accusing me of having a bias.

hostility != accusation of bias

Mrs Paris was civil, your accusation of hostility is overly defensive.

It's like you're taking this too personally or something.

You realize you're the guy who writes the most verbose posts on this board and you just wrote a couple paragraphs backing up your fanboy cred, right? That's all well and good, this is a Star Trek board after all, but this smacks of the kettle calling the pot black.

I'm sorry you don't agree with me regarding how great or original VOY was, but that's the way I feel, so please leave off.

Umm... she's supposed to "leave off" doing what? Is that a fun new euphemism I'm not familiar with, or are you asking her to stop arguing her views on a public message board?
 
Who do I like the best of the characters on Voyager?
They were all great and helped make Voyager one of,if not the best Trek series,ever.
The answer to your question is (big drum roll) ....KES...

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