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Who would you classify a villain in TOS?

The Laughing Vulcan

Admiral
Admiral
I'm trying to think of a villain in the original series in the vein of the villains that we get in the movies, and I'm coming up with a blank. Many of the antagonists that the Enterprise and her crew encountered had dimension and motivation beyond simple malice. Khan was trying to save his people, Kor representing the political will of a nation at odds with the Federation, the Romulans were stand-up Cold War opponents. Even Kodos made a hard choice between saving some and losing all, and it wound up being the wrong choice.

I think the closest to villainy we might have gotten might have been Kodos' deranged daughter, the moustache twirling Kras, and Janice Lester. Any other suggestions?
 
The evil shrink in "Dagger of the Mind" with his fiendish mind-control experiments.

The Platonians in "Plato's Step-Children." They were a pretty sadistic bunch.

The guy who framed Kirk in "Court-Martial" because of an old grudge.

The traitor in "Elaan of Troyius," who sold out his own people to the Klingons.

The disguised assassin in "Journey to Babel."

Sylvia in "Catspaw," although I suppose you can argue that assuming human form--with its unruly emotions and sensations--drove her insane.

And, yeah, if Jack the Ripper doesn't count as a villain, who does?

But Lenore wasn't a straight-up villain. She was just a deeply troubled woman, and who wouldn't be given her circumstances.You try finding out that your beloved father is a notorious mass murderer. :)
 
I'm trying to think of a villain in the original series in the vein of the villains that we get in the movies, and I'm coming up with a blank. Many of the antagonists that the Enterprise and her crew encountered had dimension and motivation beyond simple malice.

Hmm. I question the premise that the movie villains are driven by simple malice.

V'Ger sought the Creator. Khan had a legitimate beef against Kirk and had been driven mad by the death of his wife. Kruge was no more ruthless than your typical TOS-era Klingon. The probe was just checking on the whales. Sybok was looking for God. Chang was trying to preserve the Klingon Empire and stop Gorkon's peace initiative, which he regarded as dangerous mistake. Soran had been ripped away from the Paradise of the Nexus. The Borg Queen was no worse than the TV Borg, and just following her own nature. Nero saw his entire planet and family destroyed. Khan 2.0 was again attempting to protect his people, this time from the evil Starfleet admiral, who also thought he was doing the right thing by launching a preemptive strike on the Klingons.

(I confess I don't remember INSURRECTION or NEMESIS well enough to discourse on their villains's motives.)
 
Insurrection had the Son'a want to harvest the planet of the Bak'u to bring practical immortality to everyone in the universe, destroying the Bak'u way of life in the process.

Shinzon wanted to kill Picard as some kind of legitimacy of his own identity. And purge earth with a glowy weapon to show off.

Well, one could argue that the stooges in "The Savage Curtain" were the most evil beings in the knowledge of the Federation. OTherwise the Excalibans would have created others.

Jack the ripper is very hard to compare to, because he has no other motivation other than self-sustenance. It's not just that it feeds on death, but terror as well. He's probably the most evil of the beings encountered by the Enterprise in TOS.

(*) from Day of the Dove is also pretty significant, since it also gains sustenance from propagating hatred and violence. It was also after creating a self-purpetuating state of pain, fear, hatred, and violence. That pretty well qualifies as Evil...

Charlie X could rank also, since his casual and careless disfigurement of the Enterprise crew (and the destruction of the Antares) with half-hearted apologies are pretty evil too, at least to his victims. We're supposed to feel sorry for him because he's an adolescent and doesn't know any better, but that doesn't excuse what he did or make up for the people he's killed.
 
Most of the Mirror Universe ISS Enterprise crew were evil and villainous.

Also Kirk's evil transporter double.
 
We'll give Captain Garth a pass because he was clinically insane-even though he blew up Yvonne Craig! :)
 
Some additions.


Evil Lazarus from "The Alternative Factor."


Two that were mentioned but never present in a scene:

Hitler in "The City on the Edge of Forever."

Zor Kahn in "All Our Yesterdays."


I wouldn't really count the evil representatives in "The Savage Curtain," because those were evidently Excalbians playing parts.
 
No more than Andrea was, really. Though she only killed other androids. She may not have been able to tell the difference.
 
I would count the Romulans in "Balance of Terror". Even though they were interesting guest characters with differing motives, they were all given orders to attack and kill and they obeyed. In the end, as "human" as their Sarek-like Commander may have been, he still chose self-destruction to avoid being taken into Kirk's custody; he voluntarily killed himself and whatever other survivors there may have been to keep the Romulan ship and personnel out of Federation hands.

Anan 7 ("A Taste of Armageddon") was another bloodthirsty aggressor. He regarded the Enterprise peace mission with contempt and was prepared to fire on the ship without provocation, seize the landing party, and threaten to kill them as hostages. The Eminians in general, despite their human-like moments, are easy to judge as villainous because of their blind devotion to computer-sanitized perpetual warfare.

The Gorn in "Arena" were definitely villains. It was only the Metrons' interference that gave Kirk the opportunity to both stop them and show mercy, opening the door a diplomatic solution. Without the Metrons, Kirk would have either had to catch up with the attacking ship and destroy it, or risk a continuing conflict with the Gorn. It could be said that the Cestus III colony was an intrusion, but the Gorn applied violence and treachery from the get-go instead of diplomatically confronting Commodore Travers.

Landreau ("The Return of The Archons") was a computerized villain. C-111's Beta III could legitimately be called a starship trap and its mind-control technology, left in the wrong hands, would be a major threat. There was no human paradise there. It was just a cyber-dictatorship.

Khan Noonian Singh, as seen strictly in "Space Seed", was diabolical. He was another Hitler.

The flying rubber barf critters on Deneva ("Operation: Annihilate!") were parasitic like ALIEN, but Spock and Aurelan made it very clear they knew what they were doing. Kirk gave them the demise they deserved.

Harcourt Fenton Mudd was always a delightful villain. Maybe not a monster, but the kind of con-artist who somehow got into deep space and became a kind of low-grade menace. I always wanted to see Kirk phaser-stun him and throw him in the brig.

My all-time favorite villain was protected from retaliation by the Prime Directive and he knew it: Proconsul Claudius Marcus of "Bread and Circuses". This is a ballsy, Putinesque plutocrat who stood toe-to-toe with a Federation starship captain, jailed him, tried to coerce him at gunpoint, and arranged his execution before Scott's electro-magnetic pulse intervened. In the end, even his loyal henchman Merrickus had enough and used a communicator to save Kirk and company, sacrificing himself to escape his Roman trap and Kirk's scorn. For Captain Merrick's troubles, the Proconsul did what Putin himself would surely admire: stabbing Merrick in the back with a knife. I often wondered what happened on that planet after Kirk and his party were rescued. It may be a perverse fantasy, but what if Kirk's intimacy with Drucilla resulted in a weird cross-species STD that she would germinate and spread to Marcus, leaving behind a kind of perverse kissoff for him to think about... :devil:

Bele and Lokai were indestructible villains, and their own worst enemies. By leaving them in the ruins of their homeworld, these feuding villains imprisoned themselves much the same as Kirk did to Lazarus.

"The Lights of Zetar" gave us another pure and deadly villain, capable of killing everyone on a ship or station. They valued only their own lives and respected nobody else. Kirk again furnished their demise, and nobody felt sorry for them.

TOS wasn't really about furnishing villains for a Mel Gibson-style slaying like you would find in LETHAL WEAPON. From the beginning, TOS made it clear it wasn't about sending the Enterprise on a righteous crusade to rid the Universe of evil. Kirk did slay some mighty monsters, such as "The Doomsday Machine", but these were often either mindless technology run amok or they were single-minded obsessive aliens like "The Gamesters of Triskelion" that Kirk had to match wits with to trick them into ceasing and desisting. More often than not, though, Kirk found a clever Deneva / Zetarian demise for them.
 
I'd definitely restore Kodos to the list. His claim to there being reason behind the decision to kill the 4,000 doesn't hold up to scrutiny (depending on whether there were regular supply flights to the planet or not, it would have been utterly unnecessary or utterly ineffective), and OTOH odds are high that Kodos engineered the famine in the first place to get his moment of deranged glory!

What criteria for villainy are we using here anyway?

1) Willing to kill our heroes and others for an explicated goal we can't agree with?
2) The same, even when we can sort of sympathize with the stated goal?
3) Willing to kill for no reason whatsoever?
4) Being selfish?
5) Being mentally ill (by our standards at least)?

Some here actually seem to regard some of the above as mitigating factors... And few of the forms of villainy hold up to the test of "what if it were our heroes doing it to the villains instead?". Kirk and his crew kill in cold blood often enough, often after first provoking a fight. And even when they don't kill, they intimidate, blackmail and violate, although the plot statistics are split between them doing that for ideological reasons and for self-survival.

Isn't villain simply synonymous with adversary anyway? I've yet to see the word used in some other fashion...

Timo Saloniemi
 
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