A virus would mysteriously delete 95% of them just before their personhood became legislation. After that all future ones would have to be made so they were under the guidelines of what qualified a hologram to be a person.
Who trekked closer to the AQ?
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A virus would mysteriously delete 95% of them just before their personhood became legislation. After that all future ones would have to be made so they were under the guidelines of what qualified a hologram to be a person.
Yes, they punked out on Data as well.
Now if you want to talk about the nanite Civilization from Evolution who Picard granted a homeworld, or the Exocomps from Quality of Life who were allowed not be used as slaves because they didn't feel like it, but the difference between the exocomps and Hololife is massproduction. if there had already been billion of exocomps used as slave labour for the federation, there's no way they would have been given such an easy out.
Picard thinks Data is alive, but Pulaski doesn't.
He's allowed to find out if he's sentient by himself, but they're not going to help him or who knows what next? Their Star Ships start hitting the snooze button when it's do or die time? It's a slippery slope.
Now if you want to talk about the nanite Civilization from Evolution who Picard granted a homeworld, or the Exocomps from Quality of Life who were allowed not be used as slaves because they didn't feel like it, but the difference between the exocomps and Hololife is massproduction. if there had already been billion of exocomps used as slave labour for the federation, there's no way they would have been given such an easy out.
Picard thinks Data is alive, but Pulaski doesn't.
Sentient and alive are different though, yes?
I used the wrong word.
Slap me.
Slap me.
Of course, but the hologram isn't the computer running the hologram. The show kept presenting the hologram as the source of the Doctor when the Doctor was really the software in the computer. It's like the surgeon's hand claiming to be the Doctor. It bugged me no end when they made such a deal about 'sending' the Doctor to Jupiter Station or anywhere else. Why would they have to delete the software to send a copy of the program anywhere? Was the thing made by Microsoft or something?
They always use the words "holobuffer" which is a special server dedicated to holographic needs, and the words Holomatrix just means lines of code that make a hologram.
So apart from that 'All life is Photonic" line from bride of Chaotica who thought that Starfleet holograms were living sentient life forms, it's been pretty on the mark.
But then our hands are just puppets responding to electrical impulses from our brain.
Meh.
So apart from that 'All life is Photonic" line from bride of Chaotica who thought that Starfleet holograms were living sentient life forms, it's been pretty on the mark.
But then our hands are just puppets responding to electrical impulses from our brain.
Meh.
If the Doctor's consciousness was based on quantum-computing principles, a case could be made that it couldn't be copied, since transmitting quantum states (as in quantum "teleportation") requires destroying/erasing the original states, otherwise it's a violation of quantum conservation laws.
That wouldn't explain the backup EMH in "Living Witness," though. But since Voyager never managed to create another after losing that one, perhaps there was something unique about the process whereby it was created.
"matter stream"
It's the same matter an energy, even if the process does temporarily kill you, they put you back together with the same pieces.
the reason that couldn't copy the doctor is because his program was integrated into sickbay according to earliest seasons one... Eye of the Needle. but a couple episodes later they're sending him off to the holodeck like it was always something he could do.
Copying his personality was one thing, but that was useless without the scanners (his eyes) and specialized forcefield emitters (his hands) in sick bay which means that he would be near senseless trying to connect with an ordinairy holodeck, so...
29th century codecs helped a lot.
It's the same matter an energy, even if the process does temporarily kill you, they put you back together with the same pieces.
the reason that couldn't copy the doctor is because his program was integrated into sickbay according to earliest seasons one... Eye of the Needle. but a couple episodes later they're sending him off to the holodeck like it was always something he could do.
Copying his personality was one thing, but that was useless without the scanners (his eyes) and specialized forcefield emitters (his hands) in sick bay which means that he would be near senseless trying to connect with an ordinairy holodeck, so...
29th century codecs helped a lot.
If we include 'Future's End' in this then I should point out that Janeway actually set foot on Earth while Kim remained on Voyager.
The EMH may be a projection of a computer program, but his subroutines are what allow him to do what he does and ultimately is it not those that allow him to develop beyond the original confines of his program?
The EMH may be a projection of a computer program, but his subroutines are what allow him to do what he does and ultimately is it not those that allow him to develop beyond the original confines of his program?
No, it allows him to create unexpected new digital confines.
Soul my ass.
But the Doctor can write and rewrite his own programming, which he is then bound to.
Imagine if you had to stick you fingers inside your skull and massage new instincts to react to ongoing stimuli in real time?
Soul my ass.
But the Doctor can write and rewrite his own programming, which he is then bound to.
Imagine if you had to stick you fingers inside your skull and massage new instincts to react to ongoing stimuli in real time?
I don't remember this claim. I remember Riker saying that 600 million were dead, but not that only 60 million were left.
Harry Kim, by far. First, as noted, he used the Sikaran projector to get to Alastria, but it often seemed like he was one of the few to get home in many alternate realities. Like a cockroach, he's a survivor.
* He disappears through a vacuole and is replaced with a corpse ("Emanation"). He comes back mummified. Ensign Kharis? I'm surprised the crew noticed so fast.
* Slipstream riding the rapids ("Timeless")- only he survives along with Chakotay.
* Double Voyager ("Deadlock")- he gets killed, but finds a way to survive through a duplicate. In fact, he and Naomi Wildman can be considered to be the only 2 "original" people on Voyager. To quote the Romulan Senator from "In the Pale Moonlight", everyone else "is a faaaaaake".
* Hirogen takeover of the ship. Everyone else gets hunted while he gets immunity as the Scotty for the ship fixing it up whenever they break something.
* Jello Voyager ("Course: Oblivion")- His Silverblood mimic copies him quite accurately, making him among the last survivors. Seven has the excuse of imitation nanoprobes, but she was looking pretty green and sickly compared to Kim. Then again, Harry Kim was the founder of their race as a sentient race.
And he got home to Earth first, by stumbling across the Timestream ("Non Sequitur") that took him back to Earth.
And while he faced some danger (held hostage in a different state of matter by protostar creatures AKA Grendel, held hostage by a clown and turned into a baby briefly, sentenced to prison for a crime he did not commit [who is he, Chief O'Brien?], Tuvok steals his girl, every cute girl he knows dies except for the Delaney Sisters), he didn't get put through the ringer like some other crewmembers did (like turned into a transwarp salamander, driven insane, brainwashed, merged with Neelix, becoming Mr. Hyde, being subjected to Srivani experiments, getting a giant critter attached to you), though he did contract a few space STDs ("Favorite Son", "The Disease") and a nasty fungal infection ("Scorpion").
* He disappears through a vacuole and is replaced with a corpse ("Emanation"). He comes back mummified. Ensign Kharis? I'm surprised the crew noticed so fast.
* Slipstream riding the rapids ("Timeless")- only he survives along with Chakotay.
* Double Voyager ("Deadlock")- he gets killed, but finds a way to survive through a duplicate. In fact, he and Naomi Wildman can be considered to be the only 2 "original" people on Voyager. To quote the Romulan Senator from "In the Pale Moonlight", everyone else "is a faaaaaake".
* Hirogen takeover of the ship. Everyone else gets hunted while he gets immunity as the Scotty for the ship fixing it up whenever they break something.
* Jello Voyager ("Course: Oblivion")- His Silverblood mimic copies him quite accurately, making him among the last survivors. Seven has the excuse of imitation nanoprobes, but she was looking pretty green and sickly compared to Kim. Then again, Harry Kim was the founder of their race as a sentient race.
And he got home to Earth first, by stumbling across the Timestream ("Non Sequitur") that took him back to Earth.
And while he faced some danger (held hostage in a different state of matter by protostar creatures AKA Grendel, held hostage by a clown and turned into a baby briefly, sentenced to prison for a crime he did not commit [who is he, Chief O'Brien?], Tuvok steals his girl, every cute girl he knows dies except for the Delaney Sisters), he didn't get put through the ringer like some other crewmembers did (like turned into a transwarp salamander, driven insane, brainwashed, merged with Neelix, becoming Mr. Hyde, being subjected to Srivani experiments, getting a giant critter attached to you), though he did contract a few space STDs ("Favorite Son", "The Disease") and a nasty fungal infection ("Scorpion").
Finding my booboos is such sport.
You mean the fish in a barrel kind of sport?
Yes.
Fucking fish in a barrel.
Fucking fish in a barrel.
You do carp on.
That's a moray.
I cod try harder.