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johcomp

johcomp

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I got fascinated by the Journey to Babel thread as to the smoke produced during the heart op could well have been De's Ciggy stashed out of shot. On that note, anyone know which TOS actors are/were smokers??

Shatner: He did but gave up during Season 2, according to Mind Meld - often seen with a fat cigar these days.

Nimoy: Seen with a pack of Marlboro Lights in a popular on-set photograph. May have stashed his butt behind a lamp during Amok Time

Kelley: Enjoyed smoking during the filming of surgical procedures?

Any further enlightenment welcome :)
 
johcomp said:
I got fascinated by the Journey to Babel thread as to the smoke produced during the heart op could well have been De's Ciggy stashed out of shot. On that note, anyone know which TOS actors are/were smokers??

Shatner: He did but gave up during Season 2, according to Mind Meld - often seen with a fat cigar these days.

Nimoy: Seen with a pack of Marlboro Lights in a popular on-set photograph. May have stashed his butt behind a lamp during Amok Time

Kelley: Enjoyed smoking during the filming of surgical procedures?

Any further enlightenment welcome :)
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well, he had to do something to relieve the stress.;)
 
You've got to understand...almost everybody smoked in those days. Well, I guess not everybody, but it was at least 40 percent of the adult population. So your list of smokers would be almost as long as your list of non-smokers, I imagine.
 
Agreed, it was just about everyone. The Surgeon General's warning came out in 1964 but it didn't have a real effect until the 1970s.

I like this picture found over on TrekCore of Roddenberry, Kelley and Max Ehrlich (noted science fiction writer and author of the teleplay for The Apple) with everyone dressed to the nines and Kelley prominently holding a cigarette. He's stylin'. Think of Dean Martin or Sammy Davis, Jr. smoking while singing a cool tune. It was the era.

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Watch an old Tonight Show and most every guest had cigarette in hand. Many TV shows before, say 1970 featured characters smoking. Mission: Impossible and Mannix, for example.
 
johcomp said:
Nimoy: Seen with a pack of Marlboro Lights in a popular on-set photograph. May have stashed his butt behind a lamp during Amok Time.
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He may have stashed a butt there, but it wasn't a Marlboro Light, because those didn't come on the market until 1972.

As far as your question goes, naming those who didn't smoke would probably make a shorter list. It seemed as if most people smoked, in those days (my parents were some of the only adults I knew then who did not) and they smoked everywhere. The only no-smoking areas were those near where flammables were used or stored.
 
And in theaters. You never could smoke in movie theaters in the U.S. (at least not for decades back), though I understand you used to be able to in the U.K. It's really hard to imagine...
 
Thanks for the reply guys - I guess it's jut hard for me to imagine that these guys were not as health conscious as their 23rd century characters - lol!! A product of the times!

I think Commodore Stocker must have been on 5 packs a day!! ;)
 
Times were different, for sure. Growing up in the '50s/60s, I remember the coffee table in the den of our house was dominated by an ashtray larger than a dinner plate. And there must have been fifteen or more other ashtrays in various rooms. That was standard. Most of my parent's friends had similar set-ups.
 
Outpost4 said:
Times were different, for sure. Growing up in the '50s/60s, I remember the coffee table in the den of our house was dominated by an ashtray larger than a dinner plate. And there must have been fifteen or more other ashtrays in various rooms. That was standard. Most of my parent's friends had similar set-ups.
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My parents didn't smoke, but my grandpa did. I remember when he'd come to visit when I was little (early 1970s) my mom would get an ashtray out of the drawer and he'd puff away right in out living room, and it would get pretty smoky. I can't imagine it now, it's was like a different world.

Steve67 said:
Watch an old Tonight Show and most every guest had cigarette in hand.
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Even in the '70s and '80s, after they quit smoking on camera, you could sometimes see little wisps of smoke from Johnny's ashtray just out of shot. Or once in a while when they came back from commercial you would catch a glimpse of him taking a last puff off to the side before quickly turning back toward the desk.

On IMDb there's a still from 2001 where you can see a pack of Marlboros in the pocket of Frank Poole/Gary Lockwood's flight suit.

--Justin
 
Yeah, it was a different time. I remember as a kid almost choking from the thick smoke in many places and there was no escape. God forbid you would say anything either. :rolleyes:

I don't mind smokers, but I'm glad the current trend is to take a cigarette out to the garage or outside. It's nicer inside of buildings now.

I do think the trend towards forbidding smoking (in some places,) OUTSIDE or inside of your own apartment is ridiculous.
 
Jimmy Doohan was a heavy smoker until he had his "wee bout" -- a heart attack -- between TMP and TWOK. He had to quit, of course, but he blamed doing so for his weight gain. "There be whales here"!
 
I also remember most chairs having those standup ashtrays next to them so the smoker wouldn't have to lean forward or get up to drop their ashes.

Slightly OT: I remember a friend of the family (late 1970s) who routinely drank beer while driving but had the "good sense" to wrap a soft plastic adhesive label around the can (it stuck to the can through condensation) and from afar it looked like a Pepsi cola logo but the label itself read "Pepi Cala"! I'll never forget that! They were available in convenience stores. And we drove with this man!
 
My dad was a smoker but my mom was progressive and would not let him smoke in the house. So he would go just outside the front door in all weather (it was protected from the rain). He said he liked it because at least he got to breathe in some fresh outside air while he smoked.
 
JustKate said:
And in theaters. You never could smoke in movie theaters in the U.S. (at least not for decades back), though I understand you used to be able to in the U.K. It's really hard to imagine...
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I saw Star Wars in the theater in 1977 in England and one of my memories was smoke drifting up in front of the screen!
 
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