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Who should Seven had ended up with?

Na. Tom Paris is very patient too. I mean, he puts up with Banana. I don't thing that patience is enough. I lean to the doctor. He is more into that struggle for humanity thing. I don't think that anyone else on the ship would get that. The vulkans don't want to be human, so they don't count.

Yup. Doctor. Plus, he is in love with her.
 
I've explained this before as the stock story cartoons between gaming segments in modern gaming that when playing a PS3 game or XBox that there is a serious amount of data that is recycled without a care that you the "user" are forced to suffer though the same dialoging whensoever you reenter the same region of gameplay...

It is my belief that whatever Doctorcentric stories we ever saw focussed on the command staff, were recycled ad infinitum for each and all the many different disconnected social circles in Voyager (and prepared to be reused for his next ship) to abate space madness, just like any other story on the holodeck as we saw in Worst Case Scenario when they all played the same novel and the same stock characters kept parroting the same dialogue.

Serious compartmentalization on the Doctor's part to keep this web of lies intact that he's also lying to himself to seem like an entity growing into a person.

His "love" for Kes and Seven was literally interchangeable, and probably also identical for half a dozen other pretty blondes matriculating through Voyagers social strata's.

That is if we are to believe Zimmerman's claims that he was going to be using the life histories of actual doctors... Who if he is immortal this light bulb will be recycling sooner or later, like we all do when meeting new people affording with the opportunity to tell very very old jokes our friends are tired of, if not rebooting to begin anew because he's tired of doing over the same ideas and experiences and drives again and again.
 
Wow. Horribly depressing point of view, but wow. I see where you are going, sounds very logical and all. But I can't acquiesce with it.

I don't want to go into the whole 'what is a lifeform' discussion here, but for me the Doctor did change from a entity like you put it into a person. With caracter atributes, preferences and everything.
 
If the Doctor wasn't Barclay, then he had grown. unless he was programmed to grow. Grow in a defined manner. Bought an expansion for world of warcraft lately?

HOWEVER!

The Barclay episode from season two NEVER HAPPENED by the time we accepted episodes like Pathfinder as a dominant presence in their timeline, since Janeway DID NOT KNOW WHO reg Barclay in Pathfinder. Obviously some temporal incident had swished that encounter under the mat just like the Vidiians could never have over powered Voyager in Deadlock because of the events in Fury changing the nub of season one through to the present completely.

Voyager pulled at the threads of the tapestry of it's life with no freaking care to the consequences of their temporal OCDing.

Yeah.

Barclay might not have designed the Doctor's interpersonal subroutines afterall if the episode where this nugget came to light happened in an alternative timeline.

(Unless it was restated in a later episode?)
 
the Doctor did change from a entity like you put it into a person. With caracter atributes, preferences and everything.
Yes, he definitely evolved into (if not a life-form) a sentient computer program, or, when combined with the mobile emitter, a sentient robot. But the immortality problem remains, and it's a big one. One can't be human and immortal at the same time, and Seven, IMHO, deserved a human mate, one who could help her regain her full humanity.

As for Chakotay, the mere notion of their pairing is absurd. He's an earthy guy who's seen and felt much, and is clearly attracted to strong, confident women. He should have had no interest in the emotionally stunted woman-child that Seven remained by the end of the series.
 
I'm immortal.

In so that I don't believe I can die.

I'm also pretty sure I'm the centre of the universe.

And you all might be figments of my imagination.

Explains a little, no?

Humans can be immortal.

It's easy.

If immortality disqualifies you from being human then so should terminality. It can't be "uncertainty" which makes you human?

Bicentennial man was balls.
 
I'm agree with kes7. The Doctor seemed like the only good choice.
There weren't really anything about the ending of the show that I didn't like, except the fact that she was paried up with Chakotay, that almost ruined it for me. And the Doctor seemed like the perfect choice, as he was in love with Seven (also, the Doctor was the first one ever, to get Seven arroused, technically speaking [in that episode where he was hiding inside Seven's body])
 
Neelix.

Think about it.. He lost Kes.. 7o'9 came aboard. It all makes sense!!

Think of the three-way they'd be having with Naomi Wildman..
 
I would have preferred anyone over Chakotay.

Seven has a lusty affair with a stolen hypospray. Sounds horrible and wrong? Still better than Chakotay. Better acting, too.
 
You have to wonder if the Q Civil war had happened a couple years later... That's a phenomenal distraction to Janeway's most attractive qualities, having an almost perfect woman wondering about on Janeways ship, making our captain look short and stupid.

The idea that Seven would forgo a mate to be with her child as a provider is interesting if you remember that One was practically her offspring.
 
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