Unfortunately I agree with you
Who serves aboard the Kelvin Discovery?
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With an accelerated tech development why should there be Crossfield class ships?
The Mirror 1701 had a more diverse crew, bearded Spock had Vulcan bodyguards. They managed to do what goody Prime 1701 refused to do, have a ship not dominated by humans. The irony!
Or it was blown to pieces by Nero at the Battle of VulcanThe Kelvin-Discovery is out there dealing with Whale-probes, V'Ger, the Doomsday Device and Nomad.
Exactly. And Spock plays mind games like this all the time. From TOS S1 - "The Galileo Seven":
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/14.htm
Robau.
Duh.
Duh.
I'm one of the (admittedly few) people who wouldn't mind seeing Sybok on the show.
I thought about that too. It's entirely possible. OR... was Discovery even built in the first place, or did the construction crew get pulled to build the U.S.S. Vengeance?
He'd find a way to get high on the spores
It is still possible to have a Michael Burnham in the Kevin timeline without her being Spock's foster sister. If her parents were not killed in that timeline, than she would not need to be adopted by Sarek and Amanda. But she would likely still exist, since she's older than Spock and Kirk. If this is the case, she would likely have a more human personality (less, if any, Vulcan training), though she still might have joined Star Fleet. Thus she might on the Discovery, rather than the Shenzhou. Why would they build the Discovery? Its spore drive is still faster than the high warp speeds of the improved Constitution-class (which would be brand new in the timeline around the same time Discovery is built), so it could be being tested still as the events on Vulcan take place.
And if Spock didn't have Burnham to learn empathy from, he probably learned those lessons from Uhura instead.
And if Spock didn't have Burnham to learn empathy from, he probably learned those lessons from Uhura instead.
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Except, that's an enourmous retcon made after 50 years. It was in no way the intent of Spock's creators or writers for TOS, TAS, the classic movies or even the reboot movies for him to have a human sister and thus making his "attempts to understand humanity" a sham.
Maybe Kelvin Sarek had the strange idea he can learn empathy from his human mother and logic from his vulcan father.
DISC Sarek and Kelvin Sarek need to meet....
Huh???? Was "understanding humanity" ever really a thing with Spock? Come on, he had a human mother. He might toss in a quip or two about "wacky humans and the things they do" but he wasn't on some sort of quest like Data.
A lot of things weren't the "intent" of the creators and writers. The line moves forward with each episode and film. Drawing the line at a particular film, episode or series comes across as being deliberately obtuse and a lack of understanding of how fictional characters develop.
When you're easily willing to change everything about key characters, it becomes a de facto reboot.
Watch "The Galileo Seven". Spock struggles to comprehend his human officer's actions and reactions. This is a guy who was raised with a human sister? Nope. Does Kelvin Spock have a sister? He didn't even understand friendship until Kirk died.
Of course, having TWO humans in his immediate family is twice as implausible as one.
TOS Spock not understanding humans despite being raised by a human mother might wander into the realm of implausibility, but that idea was a staple of his character, so it is very much a TOS thing, implausible it or not (as are other implausible things about TOS and Trek in general that are staples of the franchise.)
Maybe he didn't always have such a warm and fuzzy relationship with Amanda, and generally withdrew from her and her human influences and instead looked toward Vulcan culture.
Burnham was raised just as Vulcan as Spock was. Remember what she was like when she and Sarek first visited the Shenzhou?
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