Who serves aboard the Kelvin Discovery?

[Turd Ferguson]

A thought I had earlier today. As we know, in the Kelvin universe, the incursion of Nero's Narada causes a series of events to occur that do not culminate in a war between the Klingons and the Federation. We know this because in Into Darkness, Admiral Marcus is wanting to do a preemptive strike on the Klingons. With this information, we can surmise that Captain Phillippa Georgiou and Commander Michael Burnham do not run into the Klingon death ship commanded by T'Kuvma and do not instigate a war between the Klingons and the Federation. Therefore, the Shinzhou is presumably not destroyed in the Battle of the Binary Stars and Burnham also probably does not commit treason in the Kelvin timeline.

So, who serves aboard Discovery? Obviously, if the Shinzhou wasn't destroyed, then Saru and Detmer are probably still serving aboard that ship. Without a war, then Voq is not transformed into Lt. Ash Tyler. Would Captain Gabriel Lorca still be in command? If so, would it be the Kelvin Lorca or the Mirror Lorca? Surely, Lt. Paul Stamets, Dr. Hugh Culber and Cadet Sylvia Tilly would still be aboard Discovery.

Any thoughts? Speculations?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

My speculation is that we have the crew of the Shinzhou on the Discovery. Georgiou in command with Burnham as first officer and Saru as science officer. Possibly doing scientific research into a new propulsion system--the Spore Drive.

 

[XCV330]

I suspect we're never getting another look into the Kelvin-verse but I could be wrong.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Discovery crew were all pulled together by Lorca, as the people he'd need to get home and facilitate his takeover of the empire.

So it really comes down to, was Lorca swapped for a mirror universe copy in the Kelvin timeline and,

Does Kelvin Spock have a sister?

IMO the answer to the second is a no, but I'm in the camp that cannot reconcile DSC with TOS, where Spock also did not have a sister. Plus, it opens up the squicky thought that Kelvin Spock is with someone who reminds him of his sister.

 

[Butters]

It’s funny. I was just thinking about the Discovery Kelvin. It would be great to see some reference to that on Discovery.

 

[Tuskin38]

where Spock also did not have a sister.

There's no proof that he didn't.

 

[Dukhat]

There's no proof that he didn't.

There's also no proof that he did, so it's a non-sequitor.

On the subject of siblings, I'm guessing that we are never going to see Sybok in DSC either, since there's no real reason for him to be there...just like there was no real reason for him to be Spock's half-brother in TFF.

 

[Tuskin38]

There's also no proof that he did, so it's a non-sequitor.

Excpet DSC Spock is also TOS Spock, so he did.

 

[Dukhat]

Excpet DSC Spock is also TOS Spock, so he did.

Correct. But since there is no evidence either way, we are free to speculate. And I for one speculate that he did not have a sister in TOS. Granted, just going by TOS, I would also have speculated that Spock did not have a half-brother, but I would have been wrong. Unless someone with the authority decides that TFF is no longer canon.

 

[DaveyNY]

I don't really have any desire to actually see Sybok on DISCOVERY.
But it would be cool if They at least mention him at some point.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

There's also no proof that he did, so it's a non-sequitor.

Oh boy! It's the traditional reciting of Spock's lucidity about his family. There's no hard "proof" that he had a sister, but there is proof that he doesn't mention any of his family, arranged marriage, etc... to his closest friends until they're standing in front of them. So, Burnham's existence as his sister and anonymity to the crew is totally in line with observed Spock behaviour.

 

[Dukhat]

Oh boy! It's the traditional reciting of Spock's lucidity about his family. There's no hard "proof" that he had a sister, but there is proof that he doesn't mention any of his family, arranged marriage, etc... to his closest friends until they're standing in front of them. So, Burnham's existence as his sister and anonymity to the crew is totally in line with observed Spock behaviour.

I never negated that. However, there are also inconsistencies. If he grew up with a human sister, why does he act like he doesn't understand humans?

 

[Tuskin38]

I never negated that. However, there are also inconsistencies. If he grew up with a human sister, why does he act like he doesn't understand humans?

He also grew up with a Human mother, that's an inconsistency coming from TOS.

 

[Dukhat]

He also grew up with a Human mother, that's an inconsistency coming from TOS.

True.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I never negated that. However, there are also inconsistencies. If he grew up with a human sister, why does he act like he doesn't understand humans?

It's a game Spock plays so he can make wry observations. But if you asked him he'd deny it.

As for the crew of Kelvin Disco. I imagine it is similar to the Prime Disco. The multiverse likes to gather the same people together as seen in the Mirror Universe 1701 and the Kelvin 1701. Kelvin Lorca commands the Disco. Burnham is his science officer. Saru his XO.

 

[Tenacity]

I'm guessing that we are never going to see Sybok in DSC either

According to statements by TPTB, we also weren't going to see the Enterprise or Spock.

 

[Tuskin38]

According to statements by TPTB, we also weren't going to see the Enterprise or Spock.

Both of those things said by people who left the show before those things happened.

 

[Dukhat]

According to statements by TPTB, we also weren't going to see the Enterprise or Spock.

There's a difference. Everyone wants to see the Enterprise and Spock. Almost no one wants to see Sybok.

 

[DEWLine]

Kelvinverse-Lorca would still be commanding his version of the USS Buran...?

 

[Rahul]

The Kelvin-Discovery is out there dealing with Whale-probes, V'Ger, the Doomsday Device and Nomad.