So you're circling around to the law and little plastic signs will keep women from getting assaulted by men?
Who is going to win this election in November?
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So you're circling around to the law and little plastic signs will keep women from getting assaulted by men?
No, but it prevents a legal (key word there) avenue for the men to be in the restroom in the first place.
Are you implying that I support that?
I'm showing that people are shitty, and if they want to do heinous things, then the law isn't going to stop them.
Perhaps more places could have unisex bathrooms to prevent these issues.
I usually identify politically as "conservative" rather than "republican" for this very reason. I'm not an advocate for transgender rights but it's not the governments place, or anyone else's place to tell you how you can and cannot live your life.
That's why I was hoping Kasich would get a surprise upset in the primaries, among all other things he knows how to find middle ground (or so i've heard).
I'm sure it's happened here or there that someone claimed to be transgender in order to commit a crime. There's no statistical significance to a bare handful of isolated incidents. I do think that situations where people are getting undressed and naked in front of others - changing rooms and showers at sports facilities for example - need to be extra sensitive to trans and cis people - but in places where you have bathrooms with separate stalls or single occupancy bathrooms or whatever no one else is gonna notice anything different about the person taking a leak next door.
Or we could just grow up. Harm can take all different kinds of forms and expecting the law to be a substitute for paying attention to what goes on around you is a non-starter.
Are these laws going to stop someone that is sick or violent from attacking others? I don't think so. Then comes how do you even enforce these laws? Do you have a package inspector that stands outside the ladies room of your local Target? Checking genitals for admittance?
By the time that you know someone has violated the law, it would be too late. HB2 and other laws like it will make no difference. It is a security blanket for folks who are scared of people different than themselves.
Not good enough. If you're going to enact a law (ZOMG, REGULATIONS!), you need to have a compelling reason for the state to act. You need to be solving an actual problem. You feeling weird about something that isn't actually harming you doesn't cut it. Because you're not solving a problem, you're just shoving YOUR awkwardness on to someone else, who may not feel safe in whatever bathroom you deem appropriate for them.
You seem to have trouble reading between the lines, so let me spell it out to you: when i said you should "feel embarassed" I was telling you that you said something asinine. What you said wasn't just ignorant, or even groundless, it was nonsensical.
And this, this little plea of yours...do you have ANY sense of irony? I can't tell you how you should feel, but you can tell other people how they should feel and where they should go?
My last apartment only had one bathroom. Whatever differences between my fiance and me, and the guests we had over, didn't seem insurmountable.
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That's not a bad solution but most places won't have the space/money to install a third bathroom, so it's not a solution everywhere.
But you need to stop pretending that bathrooms are gender-segregated based on "biological differences" or however else you want to frame it. Because that's not why we did it. See here.
Considering the guy has spent the last few pages telling us how men being in the same bathroom as women is a dangerous situation that perpetuates crime and ignores the need for women's privacy, unisex bathrooms seems like an odd suggestion.
They are usually presented as single-occupant (or, at most, single-family) units with no gender designation, so the issue of someone walking in on you is moot. I don't think that aspect was included previously but that's usually how unisex bathrooms in public accommodations are conceived.
Public toilets for the physically disabled are not designated by gender and no one raises a fuss about that.
Feels like "separate but equal" to me.
If one thinks about it, laws like North Carolina's HB2 are designed to be control mechanisms aimed at a certain group of people. Transgendered men are naturally skittish about using men's restrooms, with good cause. If one is prevented from going somewhere that feels normal to them, they are less likely to openly be who they are.
The British sense of humour in me is going to come out, this is why people need to pee before they leave home!
There are differences between black people and white people as well, that doesn't make it a sensible argument for segregation, nor does your appeal to tradition, which is rarely a good reason for doing anything.
"Separate but equal" is what we already have when it comes to restrooms. At least conceptually.
And what if you are at work, or will be out all day? Just hold it?
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