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Sorry, I'm sounding really pessimistic tonight, aren't I?!
Well, we all are from time to time.
Who is going to win this election in November?
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Well, we all are from time to time.
If I had to go by the enthusiasm and excitement at the Berglund Center in Roanoke earlier this evening I'd have to say Trump. I don't WANT to say Trump. I don't think he will win. But I just wish Hillary could generate the kind of energy and enthusiasm on the campaign trail that Cheeto Mussolini does.
I think (and hope) the "silent majority" of full grown adults who have no interest in attending a rally and who actually bother to vote will vote for Clinton.
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If one were a supporter in that crowd, I imagine it's probably very liberating to see all of one's own prejudices, discomforts, and fears being spoken out loud and on stage in front of the camera, and to get cheering in return.
John Oliver is back from winning an Emmy to bring some further perspective:
So trump uses money people donated to his "charitable" foundation to finance his own legal defense!!!
The most interesting, presumably volatile topic for the debate should be taxes, Clinton and Trump may be the most apart on that issue. They could also clash on police and incarceration policies, although those could be very damaging for both (Trump having the gall to try to bring up the superpredators comment would be interesting), and how they would differ in trying to fight ISIS (Hillary will claim she would somehow get more allied assistance, don't know if she will still say we need to fight and replace both ISIS and Assad).
Trump could be effective in appearing independent or even with some liberal ideas, like criticizing the idea of regime-changing Syria (claiming Hillary hadn't learned from either Iraq or Libya) and that the Dodd-Frank reform was ineffectual.
The worst thing for Hillary would probably be to accept that she's a figure of the status quo, that things are going well now and she'll keep on the same track. But she does seem reluctant to admit she or Obama made mistakes (aside from Obama not using military force enough) so she might accept that characterization.
I would like to see acknowledgment that they both think we need to rebuild infrastructure, that it's in great decay now. Of course they'll accuse each other of increasing the deficit.
Trump could be effective in appearing independent or even with some liberal ideas, like criticizing the idea of regime-changing Syria (claiming Hillary hadn't learned from either Iraq or Libya) and that the Dodd-Frank reform was ineffectual.
The worst thing for Hillary would probably be to accept that she's a figure of the status quo, that things are going well now and she'll keep on the same track. But she does seem reluctant to admit she or Obama made mistakes (aside from Obama not using military force enough) so she might accept that characterization.
I would like to see acknowledgment that they both think we need to rebuild infrastructure, that it's in great decay now. Of course they'll accuse each other of increasing the deficit.
Trump will lie to generate controversy and ratings; Clinton will act like an adult with sensible, if unexciting, ideas.
Trump will be declared the winner for not literally defecating on the stage. Clinton will be critiqued for her wooden performance and failure to smile frequently enough.
Trump will be declared the winner for not literally defecating on the stage. Clinton will be critiqued for her wooden performance and failure to smile frequently enough.
I hope that Lester Holt calls Trump on his lies. Bloviating buffoonery needs to be nipped in the bud. "No, that's not true. Let's move on." Will Lester do that?
If Trump gets called on obvious lies, and called on them repeatedly, of course it won't do a thing to sway his diehard supporters, but it'll be helpful for the undecided.
For Hillary, she needs to act like the adult, and make sure that Trump drowns in his own bullshit. Make him look like the amateur he is. That's my hope, anyway.
We'll see.
If Trump gets called on obvious lies, and called on them repeatedly, of course it won't do a thing to sway his diehard supporters, but it'll be helpful for the undecided.
For Hillary, she needs to act like the adult, and make sure that Trump drowns in his own bullshit. Make him look like the amateur he is. That's my hope, anyway.
We'll see.
The debate moderators don't fact-check and will not do so this time, either.
Fact checking that dog and pony show called a "debate."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check
Well, that looks pretty one-sided against Trump to me. The debate was fine. She baited him repeatedly and he lost his cool, just like she said he would. She kicked his ass.
If you were for Hillary, you still are. If you were for Trump, you still are. We'll see what independants thought soon enough.
My thoughts...
I can't stand it when people repeat themselves and Trump did it constantly. He would ask for more time just to repeat something he said already. I'm also getting tired of his claim that "we should have grabbed the oil."
Hillary annoyed me with that "I was practicing being President" line. Excuse me? Your opponent just said that he was spending time in detroit, chicago and other major cities while you stayed in a room and "played President?" I also can't see how in one instance you're for taking guns away from bad guys, yet in the next be against a policy whose sole purpose is to accomplish exactly that.
My thoughts...
I can't stand it when people repeat themselves and Trump did it constantly. He would ask for more time just to repeat something he said already. I'm also getting tired of his claim that "we should have grabbed the oil."
Hillary annoyed me with that "I was practicing being President" line. Excuse me? Your opponent just said that he was spending time in detroit, chicago and other major cities while you stayed in a room and "played President?" I also can't see how in one instance you're for taking guns away from bad guys, yet in the next be against a policy whose sole purpose is to accomplish exactly that.
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Hardly a widespread sampling, but CNN had twenty undecided voters from Florida in their studios and 18 of 20 said Clinton overwhelmingly won the debate, and CNN polled debate watchers (521 registered voters, skewed more Democratic) and 62% said Hillary won and 27% said Trump won.
I can't watch the man talk. He raises my blood pressure. I did watch about 2 and a half minutes of it near the end, where he lied about supporting the Iraq war and told a stupid lie about NATO and implied that he should get credit for them fighting terrorism, after he called them out on it. I couldn't believe my ears when he said that. Unbelievable.
Hillary then rightly pointed out to this buffoon that he has no understanding of the NATO charter. But she laughed. And yes, she laughed because he is absolutely, beyond-the-pale ridiculous....but the problem is, she should've really nailed him on that. And Lester Holt let him keep talking.
"Donald, you don't have any understanding of what you're talking about. Article 5 of the NATO charter was invoked by our allies in response to 9/11, to fight terror. So how exactly do you deserve credit for that? And is whining about getting credit for something you didn't do really a trait America wants in a leader?"
Something to that effect.
Hillary then rightly pointed out to this buffoon that he has no understanding of the NATO charter. But she laughed. And yes, she laughed because he is absolutely, beyond-the-pale ridiculous....but the problem is, she should've really nailed him on that. And Lester Holt let him keep talking.
"Donald, you don't have any understanding of what you're talking about. Article 5 of the NATO charter was invoked by our allies in response to 9/11, to fight terror. So how exactly do you deserve credit for that? And is whining about getting credit for something you didn't do really a trait America wants in a leader?"
Something to that effect.
Dude, you're just seeing bits and pieces. Watch the whole thing, or at least the higlights. She ran the floor with him. He totally lost his cool.
Trump seemed pretty simple-minded but also a little less disingenuous. Clinton won in terms of who would be the better president but Trump slightly won in terms of the personal combat.
It does in some major ways come down to how much you think the country and the Middle East is a mess and how much you think political experience and standard political solutions are worth.
It does in some major ways come down to how much you think the country and the Middle East is a mess and how much you think political experience and standard political solutions are worth.
Do we know what the impact on the average voter was?
I don't think we'll be getting extensive polling on that until at least tomorrow.
I'll see the highlights. Watching the whole thing would put me at risk for an aneurysm.
That man's bullshit quotient is off the scale. And unfortunately, the fact that he wouldn't shut up with his endless stream of nonsense probably scored him some points with people who like "strongmen."
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