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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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We all know what this is about. Democrats and Republicans.
Clarify?

The FBI originally closed the case and released a report saying there was (paraphrased) nothing there. Now they have reported that they are looking into the emails again in regard to another case.

Please explain how this is political.
 
The timing with just 11 days to go stinks to hell and for this to suddenly reappear like an October Surprise with less than two weeks until we (hopefully) know who our next President will be I just don't have much faith that this is just inconvenient timing and apolitical. I mean, whether you liked and voted for Gore or Bush in 2000 does anybody think that the all-too-convenient release of W.'s DWI record from earlier in his life was just a random happenstance with just days to go before voters went to the polls?

This close to Election Day and with so much at stake I'd be skeptical.
 
The timing with just 11 days to go stinks to hell and for this to suddenly reappear like an October Surprise with less than two weeks until we (hopefully) know who our next President will be I just don't have much faith that this is just inconvenient timing and apolitical. I mean, whether you liked and voted for Gore or Bush in 2000 does anybody think that the all-too-convenient release of W.'s DWI record from earlier in his life was just a random happenstance with just days to go before voters went to the polls?

This close to Election Day and with so much at stake I'd be skeptical.
The "October Surprise" has been SOP for decades. Bringing out Hillary's transgressions at this point is no surprise, just a reminder of who she really is.

As I've said before, I'm no fan of Trump. He will not get my vote. But in my opinion, another Clinton White House is a recipe for disaster.

YMMV.
 
That's not how macroeconomics works.
Running a deficit is not sustainable, which can result in lack of lending from investors on a macroeconomic scale and instability.

Personal experience is a pretty dangerous thing to base national policy on.
You'll have to wait for my paper to come out. My graduate work takes precedence ;)

When the government actively worked to reduce poverty, it went down. When the government stopped making this a priority, it crept up. Not too complicated when you get down to it, even though poverty is itself a complex phenomenon.
Indeed. Many of the articles I read in journals cited the increase of poverty despite increased revenues and wages in the country. There is a question by economists and social scientists that poverty programs are measuring the right thing. So, the decrease may not be what it seems to be.

I'm not saying the government can't intervene. I'm saying that it has to be responsibility with measurable goals that are related to the real world. Currently, from the literature I read, there is a debate as to accurately measure social policy's impact on poverty.


Good thing we have elections in which we can do just that!
Only if the electorate participates.
 
Not from Clinton's private server, not sent by Clinton, and from the Anthony Wiener sexting investigation rather than the Clinton email investigation.

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Somehow, Clinton’s email scandal is reignited thanks to Anthony Weiner’s sexting

The FBI said it learned of new emails as a result of an “unrelated case.” That case, according to the New York Times, is the investigation of the serial sexter who is married to, but separated from, a top Clinton aide, Huma Abedin.

The Times reported that the emails were found on electronic devices seized from Weiner and Abedin as part of a probe into Weiner’s alleged sexual messages to a 15-year-old girl.

It is not clear if Clinton did anything wrong. Anonymous law enforcement sources told various U.S. news outlets that the emails in question were not sent by Clinton, nor found on Clinton’s server.

To the frustration of Clinton’s campaign, though, the vague letter from FBI Director James Comey to congressional committee chairmen did not provide those specifics, leaving room for Republican candidate Donald Trump and his allies to fill in the blanks.


https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-email-investigation.html
 
Not from Clinton's private server, not sent by Clinton, and from the Anthony Wiener sexting investigation rather than the Clinton email investigation.

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KmrfJcE.jpg


Somehow, Clinton’s email scandal is reignited thanks to Anthony Weiner’s sexting

The FBI said it learned of new emails as a result of an “unrelated case.” That case, according to the New York Times, is the investigation of the serial sexter who is married to, but separated from, a top Clinton aide, Huma Abedin.

The Times reported that the emails were found on electronic devices seized from Weiner and Abedin as part of a probe into Weiner’s alleged sexual messages to a 15-year-old girl.

It is not clear if Clinton did anything wrong. Anonymous law enforcement sources told various U.S. news outlets that the emails in question were not sent by Clinton, nor found on Clinton’s server.

To the frustration of Clinton’s campaign, though, the vague letter from FBI Director James Comey to congressional committee chairmen did not provide those specifics, leaving room for Republican candidate Donald Trump and his allies to fill in the blanks.


https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-email-investigation.html
So, NBC reported the story. How long did it take you to find something to refute it?

Really, the giant screenshots are a little overkill, don't you think?
 
So, NBC reported the story. How long did it take you to find something to refute it?
I'm not even sure what your point is? Facts are facts, what does the length of time have to do with the veracity of the argument? I think it's important to point out that the emails didn't come from Clinton or originate from her private server and were retrieved from an unrelated investigation. Do you have anything pertinent to say about that?

Really, the giant screenshots are a little overkill, don't you think?
They're the size they were on the screen when I took the screenshot. I'm on my laptop, are you on your mobile phone? Because they're not "giant" to me. Again though, I fail to see what the size of the screenshots has to do with the content.
 
I'm not even sure what your point is? Facts are facts, what does the length of time have to do with the veracity of the argument? I think it's important to point out that the emails didn't come from Clinton or originate from her private server and were retrieved from an unrelated investigation. Do you have anything pertinent to say about that?


They're the size they were on the screen when I took the screenshot. I'm on my laptop, are you on your mobile phone? Because they're not "giant" to me. Again though, I fail to see what the size of the screenshots has to do with the content.
I think it's important to point out that the original story came from a legitimate news source, and not pulled out of my ass. If you have a problem with that, talk to NBC.

As far as the screenshots, I can post pics at any size I want. I'd be happy to walk you through it, just send me a PM.
 
I think it's important to point out that the original story came from a legitimate news source, and not pulled out of my ass. If you have a problem with that, talk to NBC.
Please point me to where I said you pulled them out of your ass? Or did anything other than point out that this new situation didn't actually have anything to do with Hillary Clinton's email server and wasn't sent by her. You get that if you post a link or article that other people are allowed to refute it or add further information to clarify the content of that article, right?

As far as the screenshots, I can post pics at any size I want. I'd be happy to walk you through it, just send me a PM.
So can I, oh condescending one, but that wasn't the point. They're not "giant", and that's just you raising a side issue to distract from the point and get in some stupid little dig which has nothing to do with the content of the post.
 
Please point me to where I said you pulled them out of your ass? Or did anything other than point out that this new situation didn't actually have anything to do with Hillary Clinton's email server and wasn't sent by her. You get that if you post a link or article that other people are allowed to refute it or add further information to clarify the content of that article, right?


So can I, oh condescending one, but that wasn't the point. They're not "giant", and that's just you raising a side issue to distract from the point and get in some stupid little dig which has nothing to do with the content of the post.
Ok, good talk. You have a nice day now. :techman:
 
Let's be honest, if Trump were somehow able to win many liberals across america would refuse to accept his presidency. And God forbid if he wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote because then it will be the year 2000 all over again.
And let's all dread when the aliens invade. The Science Fiction & Fantasy section is in the next isle.
 
^^^ Haha I want to see the Trumpsters defend this.

Trump's big problem as a presidential candidate is his disdain for democracy.

Trump is a grenade thrown into the political system by people that are so upset by that same system, that they would rather see it implode and burn then try and fix it.
 
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Video Shows Donald Trump Sexually Humiliating Woman Before Large Audience (Click Link to See Video)
He decided to take revenge on another former Miss Universe.

Ryan Grim - 10/28/2016 02:05 pm ET

But at one speech in Sydney in October 2011, he decided to give the audience a live example of what revenge looks like by calling a woman he felt had slighted him onstage and sexually humiliating her in front of thousands of onlookers.

“Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe that,” he begins, receiving a round of applause and cheers.

“I’ll give you an example: Jennifer Hawkins. Where’s Jennifer? Where’s she sitting? Get over here, Jennifer,” Trump says, referring to the 2004 Miss Universe winner, who is Australian. “First of all, how beautiful is Jennifer? This is about getting even.”

Trump then explains why he needs to “get even” with Hawkins, whom he accuses of declining to introduce him at the event. “I was so angry at her yesterday. Seriously, as I said, I thought that she dissed me. I thought that my Jennifer ― I’m going around saying she’s my favorite Miss Universe, but I think I like the new one better, Jennifer. So I go around saying she’s the greatest ... then when I came here, there was no Jennifer Hawkins to introduce me.”

Hawkins asks to take the mic to explain herself. Trump initially offers it, then bumps her aside quickly.

The next exchange is difficult to hear, but sounds like:

Hawkins: No, no, in my defense...

Trump: Go ahead...

Hawkins: ...there was a miscommunication. Of course I wanted to come here...

Retaking the mic, Trump ramps up the revenge. “I was actually going to get up and tell you that Jennifer is a beautiful girl on the outside, but she’s not very bright,” he says, as the crowd laughs. “That wouldn’t have been true, but I would have said it anyway.”

Trump then elaborates on how he believed Hawkins had slighted him. “Because I said, ‘You know what, it would be great. I haven’t seen Jennifer in a couple of years. She’s so great and she did so well, and she’s a big star here, and I helped her make it ― I own the Miss Universe pageant. And I heard that she wouldn’t introduce me.’”

Hawkins jumps in, “But I did!”

“No, but you didn’t,” Trump replies. “So what happens is ― and you know what? She came tonight, she came ― came, she came, she came,” he says, finally getting the prolonged laughter he was looking for.

In case there was any question whether Trump was deliberately using the word, he adds, “See, so they have the same filthy minds in Australia.”

“As you,” Hawkins replies, accurately.

Hawkins proceeds to explain the miscommunication, and then Trump pulls her close and goes in for a kiss. She puts her arm up in between them, and Trump lands his kiss on her cheek.

“Can I sit down now?” she asks.

“Yes, go,” he says.

Trump has been repeatedly accused of sexual assault in the last few weeks after a video surfaced showing him making lewd remarks about actress Arianne Zucker and bragging that he could grab and kiss women without consent. So far, Hawkins has been mum on the assault allegations.

Trump has also gone after former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, calling her “Miss Piggy” and “Miss Housekeeping.”


Here's another video link in case the one at the top has trouble playing:
http://www.smh.com.au/video/video-n...s-kisses-jennifer-hawkins-20161028-4mh8o.html

Thanks to matthunter for the article.
 
Video Shows Donald Trump Sexually Humiliating Woman Before Large Audience (Click Link to See Video)
He decided to take revenge on another former Miss Universe.

Ryan Grim - 10/28/2016 02:05 pm ET

But at one speech in Sydney in October 2011, he decided to give the audience a live example of what revenge looks like by calling a woman he felt had slighted him onstage and sexually humiliating her in front of thousands of onlookers.

“Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe that,” he begins, receiving a round of applause and cheers.

“I’ll give you an example: Jennifer Hawkins. Where’s Jennifer? Where’s she sitting? Get over here, Jennifer,” Trump says, referring to the 2004 Miss Universe winner, who is Australian. “First of all, how beautiful is Jennifer? This is about getting even.”

Trump then explains why he needs to “get even” with Hawkins, whom he accuses of declining to introduce him at the event. “I was so angry at her yesterday. Seriously, as I said, I thought that she dissed me. I thought that my Jennifer ― I’m going around saying she’s my favorite Miss Universe, but I think I like the new one better, Jennifer. So I go around saying she’s the greatest ... then when I came here, there was no Jennifer Hawkins to introduce me.”

Hawkins asks to take the mic to explain herself. Trump initially offers it, then bumps her aside quickly.

The next exchange is difficult to hear, but sounds like:

Hawkins: No, no, in my defense...

Trump: Go ahead...

Hawkins: ...there was a miscommunication. Of course I wanted to come here...

Retaking the mic, Trump ramps up the revenge. “I was actually going to get up and tell you that Jennifer is a beautiful girl on the outside, but she’s not very bright,” he says, as the crowd laughs. “That wouldn’t have been true, but I would have said it anyway.”

Trump then elaborates on how he believed Hawkins had slighted him. “Because I said, ‘You know what, it would be great. I haven’t seen Jennifer in a couple of years. She’s so great and she did so well, and she’s a big star here, and I helped her make it ― I own the Miss Universe pageant. And I heard that she wouldn’t introduce me.’”

Hawkins jumps in, “But I did!”

“No, but you didn’t,” Trump replies. “So what happens is ― and you know what? She came tonight, she came ― came, she came, she came,” he says, finally getting the prolonged laughter he was looking for.

In case there was any question whether Trump was deliberately using the word, he adds, “See, so they have the same filthy minds in Australia.”

“As you,” Hawkins replies, accurately.

Hawkins proceeds to explain the miscommunication, and then Trump pulls her close and goes in for a kiss. She puts her arm up in between them, and Trump lands his kiss on her cheek.

“Can I sit down now?” she asks.

“Yes, go,” he says.

Trump has been repeatedly accused of sexual assault in the last few weeks after a video surfaced showing him making lewd remarks about actress Arianne Zucker and bragging that he could grab and kiss women without consent. So far, Hawkins has been mum on the assault allegations.

Trump has also gone after former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, calling her “Miss Piggy” and “Miss Housekeeping.”


Here's another video link in case the one at the top has trouble playing:
http://www.smh.com.au/video/video-n...s-kisses-jennifer-hawkins-20161028-4mh8o.html

Thanks to matthunter for the article.
He's a rat bastard. Hillary needs to kick his misogynistic ass all the way back to his gaudy apartment.
 
OMG, my stomach is in knots just from reading the transcript. I've heard so many other women who've been sexually assaulted saying that He Who Must Not Be Elected has exacerbated their PTSD symptoms. Election Day can't come soon enough.
 
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