Who is going to win this election in November?

[sttngfan1701d]

Remember this: Everything Hitler did until 1938, up to and including his first land grabs and the first anti-Jew laws, was made possible by democratic vote. Referendums and elections swept him into power and provided him "proof" that the people liked what he was doing.

This is not an example of Godwin's Law of the internet or whatever. I'm saying this because Trump is stoking the same fires of nationalist anger and hate that Hitler did. People NEED to see this. His supporters don't and will vote for him anyway, or they do and don't care, which is EXACTLY the problem.

Yes the situation in 1930's Germany was different to the US now, but many of the attitudes of Trump supporters are eerily similar to those that fell in love with Hitler's message. They used their votes to empower a catastrophe.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Remember this: Everything Hitler did until 1938, up to and including his first land grabs and the first anti-Jew laws, was made possible by democratic vote. Referendums and elections swept him into power and provided him "proof" that the people liked what he was doing.

This is not an example of Godwin's Law of the internet or whatever. I'm saying this because Trump is stoking the same fires of nationalist anger and hate that Hitler did. People NEED to see this. His supporters don't and will vote for him anyway, or they do and don't care, which is EXACTLY the problem.

Yes the situation in 1930's Germany was different to the US now, but many of the attitudes of Trump supporters are eerily similar to those that fell in love with Hitler's message. They used their votes to empower a catastrophe.

History has a habbit of repeating itself because we never learn from it.

 

[exocomp]

History has a habbit of repeating itself because we never learn from it.

That's because most people don't know the first thing about history and yet they are the ones making the decisions for everyone else.

 

[DonIago]

For a more contemporary example, if possibly a glib one, I'm very much reminded of the opening of "X-Men: Days of Future Past". "V for Vendetta" also works, especially with Trump's near-hysterical rantings about how the country is falling apart.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm pretty sure many of our livers won't survive the first year of that fuckface.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It's okay not to like Trump, but it's perfectly okay to vote for him.

No, it's not. It can only be considered "okay" in the sense that if one is a non-foreign-born white, male, straight, Christian with a near-sociopathic disregard for their fellow citizens it probably won't affect them much at first, at least until Trump tanks the economy and launches a war against Iran over some macho bullshit.

 

[suarezguy]

When was she in a position to end or change it?

It would involve, as it still will in the presidency, persuading others but she particularly could have while she was a senator and she also had influential positions during the Clinton and Obama administrations (especially if the tax exemptions were widely unpopular among her party).

It's ok to not like Clinton but if you're voting for Trump; shame on you.

I wouldn't vote for Trump, he is at the least quite a bit worse than Clinton.

I never said it was. It's you that seem to ascribe too much power to one individual. Hilary couldn't have changed the law all by herself, even if her life depended on it.

Well you would kind of expect that most of her party was against it or would turn against it too. But she is asking for votes in part from having had a lot of experience so it's worth considering how much she was or was not able to get accomplished during all that time.

 

[DonIago]

I'm aghast that I posted a link to a CNN article about Peter Thiel (co-founder of Paypal) donating $1.25 million to Trump's campaign on my Facebook page, and a friend basically called me a hypocrite for saying I may want to shut down my Paypal account.

I had to explain to him that just because Thiel has the right to support whomever he wants politically doesn't mean others don't have the right to judge him for it.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

So most of those abuse allegations against Trump might be false. His butler just came out and said so..

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/trumps-butler-debunks-another-accusers-story-never-happened/

 

[Australis]

Yeah, 'cos, like, his butler job isn't on the line or anything.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Yeah, 'cos, like, his butler job isn't on the line or anything.

IKR

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

So also did the US State Dept. Sell a whole fleet of Toyotas to ISIS?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I'm aghast that I posted a link to a CNN article about Peter Thiel (co-founder of Paypal) donating $1.25 million to Trump's campaign on my Facebook page, and a friend basically called me a hypocrite for saying I may want to shut down my Paypal account.

I had to explain to him that just because Thiel has the right to support whomever he wants politically doesn't mean others don't have the right to judge him for it.

Thiel has been a notorious shitbag for years.

He also believes getting infusions of blood from young people will help him live forever.

 

[exocomp]

I don't think we'll ever recover from trump's presidency. People need to realize that.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

He's not gonna be President.

 

[exocomp]

He's not gonna be President.

Let's hope so.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

He's not gonna be President.

Do not underestimate the power of the stupid... (force)

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Do not underestimate the power of the stupid... (force)

I'm not underestimating anything. Even GOP-slanted polls are showing a Clinton win at this point. He's done.

 

[BillJ]

I'm not underestimating anything. Even GOP-slanted polls are showing a Clinton win at this point. He's done.

I will continue to be nervous about the prospects of a Trump presidency, until Clinton crosses the 270 electoral vote threshold.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Thiel has been a notorious shitbag for years.

He also believes getting infusions of blood from young people will help him live forever.

Shades of Elizabeth Bathory.

Bathory reportedly believed that human blood would keep her looking young and healthy.