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Which WARP CORE look do you like better? 1701-REFIT or 1701-A

which WARP CORE look 1701-REFIT or 1701-A do you like better?

  • 1701-REFIT [TMP-WOK-SFS]

    Votes: 41 93.2%
  • 1701-A [TUC]

    Votes: 3 6.8%

  • Total voters
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I don't judge production design by the film's success. I just happen to think the TFF "engine room" of tubes looks dumb, and the TNG warp core looks like a fiberglass sippy cup with neon in it. The TMP engine core was really well-made and designed and added a lot of visual interest when it throttled up and down.
 
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I don't judge production design by the film's success. I just happen to think the TFF engine room tubes of tubes looks dumb, and the TNG warp core looks like a fiberglass sippy cup with neon in it. The TMP engine core was really well-made and designed and added a lot of visual interest when it throttled up and down.
Agree, this is exactly how I feel about these production designs.
 
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I don't judge production design by the film's success. I just happen to think the TFF engine room tubes of tubes looks dumb, and the TNG warp core looks like a fiberglass sippy cup with neon in it. The TMP engine core was really well-made and designed and added a lot of visual interest when it throttled up and down.
Meyer could've added or redress TFF engine room and still fit his narrative for TUC than using TNG's which was supposed to be something new from a state of the art design of the Galaxy Class ship.
 
Meyer could've added or redress TFF engine room and still fit his narrative for TUC than using TNG's which was supposed to be something new from a state of the art design of the Galaxy Class ship.
Agree, Meyer could have and should have improved TFF engine room set for re-use in TUC instead of using the NG set. Maybe TFF engine room set was not available and had already been re-used for another NG set or destroyed.
 
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Agree, Meyer could have and should have improved TFF engine room set for re-use in TUC instead of using the NG set. Maybe TFF engine room set was not available and had already been re-used for another NG set or destroyed.
As I recall the TFF engine room tube arches were used all over TNG. And Meyer didn't have enough of a budget to build an engine room.
 
Was the engine room set for TMP dismantled after TSFS? Did really hungry and/or mutated termites eat it between 1983 and 1988? Why not reuse the shiny big engine from TMP, chuck in some blue lights for the groovy glow, add some other bits that look 24th century-like and use that for TNG (and then swap out the lights back for TFF again) instead of the cheap-looking oversized ribbed dog chew toy with pulsing 80s teal-neon in the middle? All that neon could have gone to a sign flashing the word "Vacancy" instead. Looked passable in TNG but was so laughably small in VI that even "Generations" avoided using that set for as much as possible.
 
Was the engine room set for TMP dismantled after TSFS? Did really hungry and/or mutated termites eat it between 1983 and 1988? Why not reuse the shiny big engine from TMP, chuck in some blue lights for the groovy glow, add some other bits that look 24th century-like and use that for TNG (and then swap out the lights back for TFF again) instead of the cheap-looking oversized ribbed dog chew toy with pulsing 80s teal-neon in the middle? All that neon could have gone to a sign flashing the word "Vacancy" instead. Looked passable in TNG but was so laughably small in VI that even "Generations" avoided using that set for as much as possible.

You know its the same set right?

They changed it between TSFS and TNG but the walls, ladder and lift are all in the same spot and pretty sure the second level is exactly the same. I presume the Warp Core (sadly) went in the bin.
 
You know its the same set right?

They changed it between TSFS and TNG but the walls, ladder and lift are all in the same spot and pretty sure the second level is exactly the same. I presume the Warp Core (sadly) went in the bin.
TMP-WOK-SFS warp core was copied in Star Trek:Voyager.
 
The internal "lights" look quite similar but the core itself looks like a new build to me.
Agree, that is why I said "copied" , not re-used.

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I did love seeing them actually eject the core in "Day of Honor" too. Who knew they could do so successfully? :p

Bonus points for them then showing Engineering with the core missing.
 
It's a practical design and I think it looks at lot better than TMP 1701 or TUC/TNG Warp engine.
It's just a redress of those tunnels that Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty walk through after Scotty breaks them out of the brig. Right behind the camera is where Scotty walks into the beam that somehow knocks him out.
 
The interesting thing about the warp core in TUC is that it's filmed quite cleverly. We all know that it's the Enterprise-D's warp core, but pains were apparently taken to avoid showing this as overtly as it might have been. We mainly only see the blue of the matter constriction segments, in reflection while Scotty is smiling up at it when the Enterprise-A leave Spacedock, then as the camera pans over the worried faces of the engineering crew as Spock counts down the arrival to Khitomer. The one time the camera does actually focus on and pan over the core proper, during the fight with Chang, it's shot in such a way that it only shows a single plasma transfer conduit leaving it. My feeling is that, knowing they'd have to use the TNG core, they deliberately shot it in a way to suggest it's intermediate between the horizontal intermix shaft of the TMP era and the TNG-style centralised core.

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