Alternate Original Series. What became known officially as the Kelvin Universe.
Which version of TOS is canon??
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Animated Original Series?
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Thanks F. King Daniel that makes a lot more sense!
I should have checked the next page before replying
Well remember in the original version, Steve Austin was held in cryogenic suspension until he was needed for a mission. I did like Darren McGavin as the head of the OSI though in the pilot.
But yeah when they went to series they needed someone who was more of a human being, And who saw Steve Austin as more of a human than just a cyborg machine to be used as needed.
I don't know if that was the only reason. If you look at the two Glen Larson movies, Oscar Goldman was initially written as every bit as much a sinister government hardass as McGavin's Spencer was -- but Richard Anderson's intrinsic charm didn't fit that characterization very well. So I think they softened it to fit the actor as much as anything else.
When did this get switched to the Six Million Dollar Man forum??
Do you really want us to keep rehashing the same TOS canon arguments until the tardigrades come home?
Bionic Baloney.When did this get switched to the Six Million Dollar Man forum??
A large part of that realism is that it was actual crash footage from NASA. Steve Austin was piloting a craft called the M3F5, an actual craft that to my knowledge never flew, and the footage of the actual crash was of the M2, from which the pilot walked away with a broken arm. That's why the two craft look different between the launch and the crash.
Edited to add: Apparently he permanently lost vision in one eye, perhaps even losing the eye itself, and wore a patch for the rest of his life. I did not know that when I posted before.
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Yes, of course I know that. Obviously. Even as a child I could tell it was stock footage. What I'm talking about is the realism of the rest of the sequence, the parts that Lee Majors is actually in, where it's clear that they had Air Force cooperation for the filming. That's what's impressive.
At the Journey (writing about science fiction 55 years ago), Niven's career has just begun. Kzinti debut next month ("The Warriors").
I'm so glad I live in 1965. When Trek comes out, there will be only one continuity until 1979. And the fandom will be glorious!
Yeah, right. That continuity was fraught with contradictions and inconsistencies that fans debated as vigorously at the time as they argue about conflicts between different series today. Are they Vulcans are Vulcanians? Lithium or dilithium? Is the death penalty General Order 7 or 4? Did Galloway die or didn't he? What the hell is a UESPA?
Ah, but it wasn't as easy to do so back then. My only Trek talk in the early 1970s was with friends who also liked the show and my brother. Not all of us lived in LA or NY where we could have gone to conventions. (Probably not with my allowance, *lol*)
And since the show was on TV, and couldn't be taped or recorded (by most), often mistakes or contradictions weren't caught.
The Internet opened up a whole new world for Trek fandom - for good and for bad.
And since the show was on TV, and couldn't be taped or recorded (by most), often mistakes or contradictions weren't caught.
The Internet opened up a whole new world for Trek fandom - for good and for bad.
Alan Oppenheimer's turn up in The Bionic Criminal was filmed before Return of The Bionic Woman with Martin Brookes taking over as Rudy Wells! But because of the great interest in Jaime Sommers, the Bionic Woman, and her impending TV series, they pushed her two part return over the return of the Seven Million Dollar Man!
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Do you really want us to keep rehashing the same TOS canon arguments until the tardigrades come home?
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The Trek fanzine and Best of Trek collections thereof had a whole ongoing "Star Trek Mysteries -- Solved!" series that was all about discussing continuity errors in TOS. The BoT series ran for over a dozen volumes and I think there was a "Mysteries" column in almost every one. So inconsistencies in Trek were a lively topic of fan debate even then. You could also find plenty of fannish griping about continuity errors and mistakes in the letter columns of magazines like Starlog.
Not to mention comic book letter columns. Marvel invented the No-Prize as a response to readers' perennial complaints about continuity errors and mistakes, "awarding" it to readers who offered the best solutions. There has never been a time when audiences were unable to catch mistakes or unmotivated to debate them.
And yes, the show was on TV -- constantly on TV, with the same 79 episodes rerunning 5 days a week in an endless loop, sometimes on more than one channel, so you could see the same episode at least 3 times a year. I had them practically memorized. I could instantly recognize an episode from the first 5-10 seconds, and I know I wasn't the only one who could do that. They were rerun so often that we hardly needed home video to become intimately familiar with their details. And in between watching them, we could read the Blish adaptations to remind us, though of course there were some differences between the two.
Fandom never changes except for its easy access to trivia to fight over.
The stuff Christopher mentions were things most fans had little to no awareness of. You had to seek that stuff out and pay for it. It wasn't shoved in your face by Google and Facebook algorithms, so it was even a more minority activity of fandom than now.
The stuff Christopher mentions were things most fans had little to no awareness of. You had to seek that stuff out and pay for it. It wasn't shoved in your face by Google and Facebook algorithms, so it was even a more minority activity of fandom than now.
It's not about how widely known it was. Popularity has never determined truth or worth.
I was responding to the line that there was "only one continuity." People always make the mistake of thinking continuity debates are something recent, that everything fit together absolutely perfectly until the most recent incarnation of the franchise. The truth, as you say, is that it never changes -- the same issues arose then as now.
ironically, so is this BBS. And Facebook groups, mostly. And google isn’t going to put comments from random dudes in your face, especially if you don’t look for reviews for a given show...
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