Which TOS film reminds you most of an episode of TOS?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by Commander Kielbasa, Aug 21, 2017.


Which TOS film is closest to the TV series?

  1. Star Trek: The Motion Picture

    12 vote(s)
  2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

    6 vote(s)
  3. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock

    4 vote(s)
  4. Star Trek IV: The Voyage of Home

    4 vote(s)
  5. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

    30 vote(s)
  6. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

    1 vote(s)
  1. Commander Kielbasa

    Commander Kielbasa Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Jun 1, 2016
    What I mean is, which do you feel, tone-wise, feels the most like a feature-length episode of TOS? Which captures the tone of the original series the most?
  2. Kor

    Kor Admiral Admiral

    Jul 31, 2001
    Dahar Master final exams
    TMP feels like "The Cage."
    TWOK feels like a first season episode.
    TSFS, TVH and TUC feel like second season episodes.
    TFF feels like a third season episode. :razz:

  3. Vger23

    Vger23 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Apr 19, 2014
    New England
    Star Trek V is easily the most "TOS episode-like" of the original films. There are elements of TSFS (certainly not the plot...but the character stuff and the "mystery on a planet" stuff) that feel like an episode to me.

    The only TNG film that doesn't feel like a 2-part episode is Nemesis.
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  4. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    A type 13 planet in its final stage
    Definitly STV: TFF. And I say that as a good thing, I love TFF.
  5. JonnyQuest037

    JonnyQuest037 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 6, 2005
    Parsippany, New Jersey, USA
    There are moments in TMP that really feel like the TV series. The big one for me is the Captain's Log recap when the ship is inside V'Ger. It feels like we just came back from a commercial break. That's something the later movies got away from.

    Overall, TFF feels the most like an episode of TOS. Unfortunately, it's a third season episode, where the budget was slashed and the writing went to hell.
  6. Khan 2.0

    Khan 2.0 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 30, 2013
    earth...but when?...spock?
    would that would make VI another 3rd season (but a classic like Spectre/Tholian)?
  7. sbk1234

    sbk1234 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 24, 2006
    Los Angeles
    TFF, definately.
  8. Smellmet

    Smellmet Commodore Commodore

    Aug 5, 2013
    The Northern Shires of England.
    I voted TSFS, for the wonky planet sets and the classic Kirk fisticuffs with Kruge.
  9. Galileo7

    Galileo7 Commodore Commodore

    Sep 19, 2010
    TVH visit to present day earth like Assignment:Earth and Tomorrow Is Yesterday.
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  10. Cutie McWhiskers

    Cutie McWhiskers Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    May 18, 2017
    The clinic located by the Q Continuum
    Agreed with Kor above, TMP = The Cage.
    2-4 and 6 are their own arc, and very much cinematic rather than TV, though 3 has TOS-like moments of Kirk breaking orders. And, yup, Galileo7 brings up a great point about the TOS time travel episodes.

    And yet I still feel 5 definitely captures the spirit of the TV show the most, even if it is flawed in some scenes. It's not the cinematic epics 1-4 and 6 have, but it has the action and philosophy TOS had and, let's face it, Sybok is actually way-cool as a villain. ST : V also better than a number of the TOS TV episodes IMHO.
  11. arch101

    arch101 Commodore Commodore

    May 3, 1999
    10 miles west of the Universal Hub
    TFF is like a 3rd season ep- right up there with "Spock's Brain".
  12. Sybok Was Wrong

    Sybok Was Wrong Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 28, 2015
    TFF is the Space Hippies episode, 80's-style!

    Which is awesome! Love ST V. Loved Doctor Sevrin and his followers. Yay, brother.
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  13. 2takesfrakes

    2takesfrakes Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 13, 2013
    California, USA
    TMP is the most TOS-like movie, in my opinion. "The more things change, the more they stay the same" definitely applies, here. TSFS was the last TOS-like movie, as far as I'd be concerned. Once Leonard Nimoy's TVH sanctioned winks at the audience and stubborn self-effacement ... it never left the franchise, which never became the better for it, either. I suppose that it's actually much easier, really, to see Shatner & Co. popping Viagra & washing it down with Metamucil, instead of $aving the Universe. I get that. But the in-references and making light of the fact that they're just milking their Cash Cow aren't selling points to me. That's not what I watch STAR TREK for -- maybe Trekkies, in general, eat that shite up, but it's incredibly annoying to me.

    The approach TMP took may not have been STAR WARS exciting, but it was impressive as all hell -- and guess what? The Original Series cast was old in that one, too. TMP downplayed them being old, obviously, and maybe they overdid it, which I won't argue about. But when I see Kirk's shuttle taxiing into STARFLEET Command, I'm like in awe of it. I wish it was in 3D, actually, so I could get all into it and really get a look around, it's so frigging cool and corny, at the same time. I mean, that huge TFP symbol on the floor, given a loving close-up! Come ON!!! But I love it ... it's such a STAR TREKy moment and then Kirk's in the window and it's all good.

    The whole movie pays tribute to TOS, really. Like when Scotty's driving Kirk around spacedock and we eyeball the refurbished Enterprise, the first time. The music is swelling, Kirk's about to wet his pants ... and how come? Hmmm? How come? I'll not keep you in suspense: It's because it's evoking TOS. It's the comparisons, the homage and, frankly, the incredible love that Trekkies have for this shite. Even the Rec Room is flled with Trekkies who aren't there because they get to be in a movie. They're there to herald in a new era for TOS. The sequels that followed had lost that lovin' feelin'. "We know it's only STAR TREK ... but we like it." TMP, on the other hand was all, "... THIS is how much we LOVE STAR TREK!!!" And that Grand Old Lady called TOS shined like it never did before, or since. Like Charlie Brown's Christmas tree that just needed to be loved. That's just what it was like ...
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  14. feek61

    feek61 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 25, 2011
    The Sunshine State
    For me, none of them. The films did not feel like the same Trek as the original series. I always considered them a separate thing but still enjoyed them.
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  15. flottanna

    flottanna Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Jul 3, 2012
    Search For Spock feels to me the most like a TOS episode. Although feel The Motion picture captures best the essence of what Trek tried to capture at it's best.
  16. Tallguy

    Tallguy Commodore Commodore

    May 2, 2005
    Beyond the Farthest Star
    On an element by element basis, Star Trek V.

    I've always compared The Motion Picture to The Corbomite Manuever (despite it's Changeling plot points) and The Wrath of Khan to Balance of Terror.

    But the best episode of TOS I have seen since 1969 is the first ten minutes of Into Darkness. Pity about the rest of the film.
  17. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 26, 2003
    The Bay Area
    The Final Frontier is the best mediocre third-season episode of the original series.
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  18. Graham

    Graham Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Nov 11, 2017
    Definitely ST V. How many times did TOS do the "Kirk versus an alien God" idea? This is just another of those. Plus elements of The Way To Eden.

    But it also just has a similar tone and feel. The camaraderie, seeing the officers on leave together, just the general sense of slightly camp fun about the whole thing.

    That's not to say it's a good film, but it always felt like a TOS episode to me.
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  19. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Feb 2, 2016
    There is a cut on line that turns it into a TOS episode, removes the most annoying scenes, and adds commercial breaks and TOS Sound FX. Its one of the best TOS episodes out there. ;)
  20. johnnybear

    johnnybear Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Sep 7, 2014
    TUD was the only movie that for me showed The Klingons as a hostile enemy alien race (as they were in the TV series) rather than a group of bounty hunting pirates! With Chancellor Gorkon in power they did appear to be a race of intelligent creatures with an agenda all of their own and an Empire which spanned many star systems!
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