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Which series was more racially diverse?

Which series was more racially diverse?

  • TOS

    Votes: 8 11.9%
  • TAS

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Films

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • TNG

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • DS9

    Votes: 45 67.2%
  • VOY

    Votes: 13 19.4%
  • ENT

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    67
DS9 wins this one.

Avery Brooks once opined that other than DS9, how often on American television would you see an African American male having a conversation with a man of Arab descent about something other than blowing up a government building? :lol:
 
On the other hand, Keiko probably had more character development than Harry Kim ever did.

I think Molly might have him beat also.

Damn. Probably.:lol:

I'd go for DS9 too. Voyager did have a female captain sure but both Kira and Jadzia captained a fair few times too. Hell the command structure on DS9 was Sisko, Kira and Dax until Worf showed up.
Interestingly, for a good part of the series Kira actually had an equivalent rank to Sisko's, her major equalling his commander for the first few seasons and then her promotion to colonel in S7. I think it would have been neat if her Starfleet commission had actually been to captain, instead of having her take what was in effect a demotion.

And of course Kasidy Yates was a captain, albeit a civilian one.
 
I went with TOS because of the "for it's time" element. They had a Ruskie in the middle of the Cold War. They tried putting Blacks in prominent positions a few times. Uhura, M'Benga, Daystrom...


I have to agree with this, just based on the time and the circumstances of life back then.
 
Voyager

Female captain.
South American Indian first officer, played by a Hispanic actor.
Latina/Klingon engineer, played by a Hispanic actress.
Asian operations officer.
Black Vulcan security/tactical officer.

Major points for having more than just the token Asian and token black. TNG and DS9 didn't even have Asians as main characters.

EDIT: Also, Seven of Nine's character had the role of Outsider which, up until that point, had always been given to a male.

I'll agree with this.

I don't think all of those characters were given meaningful development, but they definitely get points for diversity in the casting department.

Warped9, great topic, btw :)
 
I went with TOS because of the "for it's time" element. They had a Ruskie in the middle of the Cold War. They tried putting Blacks in prominent positions a few times. Uhura, M'Benga, Daystrom...


I have to agree with this, just based on the time and the circumstances of life back then.
Man From Uncle featured a Russian character. I Spy and Mission Impossible had blacks in leading roles. The pilot of Hogan's Heroes had a Russian POW and the series had a reoccuring Russian character and of course Kinch was Black
 
DS9 is a very tempting choice, what with the sheer number of characters, choice of Captain (Commander) and the many alien leads, but it would be nothing without the template that TOS set up. Sixties TV stories were more about the stars/lead characters, but just look at the supporting cast and the choices made for important (and even unimportant guest roles)

TOS has the black crewman speaking Swahili (albeit an illusory apparition, but Uhura didn't find the man at all out of place on the Ent) in The Man Trap. You had an interracial/interspecies marriage between Sarek and Amanda. There were many, many supporting roles and speaking parts given to minorities with no emphasis placed on their gender or race, they were simply Starfleet Officers doing their jobs (see the Asian female and Black male security guards in By Any Other Name) and countless other examples that went beyond what was the standard of the time.

The more I think of TOS, the more I see the constant effort on the part of the producers and casting agents to maintain the cultural diversity through subtle yet deliberate choices, designed to provide a glimpse of a positive, prejudice-free society (making throwbacks like Stiles, Cochrane and the comments made by Lincoln that much more telling.)
 
Voyager

Female captain.
South American Indian first officer, played by a Hispanic actor.
Latina/Klingon engineer, played by a Hispanic actress.
Asian operations officer.
Black Vulcan security/tactical officer.

Major points for having more than just the token Asian and token black. TNG and DS9 didn't even have Asians as main characters.

EDIT: Also, Seven of Nine's character had the role of Outsider which, up until that point, had always been given to a male.

I said DS9... but I think you convinced me otherwise.
 
DS9 is a very tempting choice, what with the sheer number of characters, choice of Captain (Commander) and the many alien leads, but it would be nothing without the template that TOS set up. Sixties TV stories were more about the stars/lead characters, but just look at the supporting cast and the choices made for important (and even unimportant guest roles)

TOS has the black crewman speaking Swahili (albeit an illusory apparition, but Uhura didn't find the man at all out of place on the Ent) in The Man Trap. You had an interracial/interspecies marriage between Sarek and Amanda. There were many, many supporting roles and speaking parts given to minorities with no emphasis placed on their gender or race, they were simply Starfleet Officers doing their jobs (see the Asian female and Black male security guards in By Any Other Name) and countless other examples that went beyond what was the standard of the time.

The more I think of TOS, the more I see the constant effort on the part of the producers and casting agents to maintain the cultural diversity through subtle yet deliberate choices, designed to provide a glimpse of a positive, prejudice-free society (making throwbacks like Stiles, Cochrane and the comments made by Lincoln that much more telling.)
There was also a specific request from the Network to have a racially diverse crew. Which isnt to say that Roddenberry wasn't thinking along similar line himself.
 
DS9 wins this one.

Avery Brooks once opined that other than DS9, how often on American television would you see an African American male having a conversation with a man of Arab descent about something other than blowing up a government building? :lol:


Did he really say that.

Fantastic.

So true........:bolian:
 
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