Which screen version of Batman is your favourite?
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The best thing about Kilmer is that he was better than Keaton and lucky enough not to have been in the next movie.
If Clooney had been in any of the three previous films he'd probably be considered the definitive Batman. Watching him play Danny Ocean gives you a pretty good idea of how his Bruce Wayne SHOULD have come off.
My complaint is not with whatever "goddam O'Neil" (whoever he is) says about Batman having a "growly" voice, it is with Bale's performance of that voice. One has to look only as far as Jackie Earle Haley's superb "fake" voice as Rorshach to see that a fake voice can be done without it being so ridiculously obtrusive, that the voice takes on a life of it's own. That is what Bale has given us.
Anyway, I'm still not sure what the OP is asking, but I'll go with my favorite performance of the Batman character:
1. Michael Keaton
2. Val Kilmer
3. Kevin Conroy
The rest aren't worth mentioning except; I will always see the 60's T.V. show presentation of Batman as an embarrassment.
While I agree with you that Bale's growl didn't work very well, the fact that you don't know who Denny O'Neill is says that you really know jack shit about Batman.
So I have to know who Danny O'Neil is in order to know what I like and don't like about Batman.
But an embarassment nonetheless.
So I have to know who Danny O'Neil is in order to know what I like and don't like about Batman.
No, but if you like Batman, it's probably because of Denny (not "Danny") O'Neil.
For the record, he's a legendary DC comics editor and writer who (along with artist Neal Adams) is largely responsible for returning Batman to his "Dark Knight" roots after the campiness of the fifties and early sixties. Among other things, he created Ra's al Ghul.
Just to give credit where it's due.
Thanks for the info.So I have to know who Danny O'Neil is in order to know what I like and don't like about Batman.
No, but if you like Batman, it's probably because of Denny (not "Danny") O'Neil.
For the record, he's a legendary DC comics editor and writer who (along with artist Neal Adams) is largely responsible for returning Batman to his "Dark Knight" roots after the campiness of the fifties and early sixties. Among other things, he created Ra's al Ghul.
Just to give credit where it's due.
NEVER read the comic books - grew up with the 60s tv series and the latter movies.... O'Neill means nothing to me in this context. Then again, I stopped reading comic books in 1972 - even then, I was more into Superman & Thor, not Batman.So I have to know who Danny O'Neil is in order to know what I like and don't like about Batman.
No, but if you like Batman, it's probably because of Denny (not "Danny") O'Neil.
For the record, he's a legendary DC comics editor and writer who (along with artist Neal Adams) is largely responsible for returning Batman to his "Dark Knight" roots after the campiness of the fifties and early sixties. Among other things, he created Ra's al Ghul.
Just to give credit where it's due.
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I never read the comics either. O'Neill's writing credit for the origin of Ra's Al Ghul episode on "Batman: The Animated Series" is the main reason I know who he is. It was really cool of that show to bring in the comic writer who created the character to write his debut episode.
A number of other B:TAS episodes draw on O'Neill's work. For instance, while the first 2/3 of "The Laughing Fish" is based on the Steve Englehart-scripted storyline of that name, its climax with the shark tank is based on O'Neill's "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" -- a seminal story because it turned the Joker back into a ruthless homicidal madman after decades as a relatively harmless prankster. So O'Neill didn't just make Batman serious again, he made the Joker what he is today. The Batman we know, the Batman of B:TAS and the Burton and Nolan movies, would not exist without Denny O'Neill.
