Which New Who set should I get?
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I've got to respectfully disagree there. I think The Unicorn and The Wasp is a great episode. The Doctor's Daughter is the only one in S4 I'm not crazy about.
Jim, I realize you enjoy coming along and crapping in Doctor Who threads - you've already had one thread shut down because of your threadcrapping, and here you are trying it again. Seriously, if you don't like Doctor Who, why are you here?
Unicorn and the Wasp was certainly not a clunker. Certainly anyone who had actually watched it would know that.
Well that's beyond ridiculous. I'm a huge fan. 2 shelves of DVDs, almost everything from An Unearthly Child right up to Journey's End - my credentials for posting on a Doctor Who forum are pretty fucking extensive, thank you very much.
It's just that when you love something this much, its flaws are magnified. Maybe I do come across as overly negative to you, but never about the show as a whole. If I moan, it's about a specific episode or moment within an episode, and I usually give my reasoning. So, respectfully, I think you've just read me wrong.
That was because certain people can't take a joke. It was never my intention to have the thing shut down. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Neroon.
Or, perhaps someone dares to sport a different opinion.
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I agree about "The Unicorn and the Wasp" being a weaker episode but overall, to me, series 4 is still the best of the new series. The chemistry between the Doctor and Donna really adds to the show.
The first two series are great. I think the third series is the weakest of the four (though still great compared to other shows). There are some great stories in it but I always felt it lacked a certain warmth and charm. But that's probably a minority opinion. I recently talked to a Who fan (irl, which is exceptional since there are only a handful of Who fans in the whole of Germany) and he was very enthusiastic about it. Maybe I should rewatch it some time...
The first two series are great. I think the third series is the weakest of the four (though still great compared to other shows). There are some great stories in it but I always felt it lacked a certain warmth and charm. But that's probably a minority opinion. I recently talked to a Who fan (irl, which is exceptional since there are only a handful of Who fans in the whole of Germany) and he was very enthusiastic about it. Maybe I should rewatch it some time...
I would have said season 2 was my favourite a few months ago. But, even though I don't think it's possible to be more conflicted about an hour of television than the way I feel about Journey's End, and I'm really no fan (obviously) of Unicorn and Doctor's Daughter - when I think about Donna, how brilliantly played she is by Tate and how (as you say) marvellous their chemistry is, I can't help but feel season 4 wins out. And season 4 doesn't feature Peter Kay or Fear Her, so I guess that settles it.
My default stance on Season 3 is that it's the weakest series, but then - 42, Human Nature/Family of Blood, Blink - and even, on my (quite recent) second viewing, the dreaded Evolution of the Daleks isn't as bad as I remember. And John Simm... sublime!
I don't know. It really is just a handful of episodes that trip the shit radar across all four seasons. Pretty much everything is fried gold aside from a few notable exceptions.
Oh yes, there are really great episodes in series 3. "Human Nature/Family Of Blood" is one of the best episodes of the new series, I think. And I always had a weak spot for the often reviled "42". "Blink" is a good example of what I meant in my previous post. Concept-wise and story-wise it's extraordinary but it feels kind of cold and a bit lifeless to me. I had this feeling from the first episode of the third series. That's probably just me, though. And the season finale kind of ruined it for me. It started so great in "Utopia" and then just went way over the top. But again, there were great characterisations and in it, John Simms as the Master was awesome and the last scene with the Doctor realising his loneliness in the TARDIS redeemed it a great deal.
So, while I generally agree with this statement:
I have to admit that even the "bad" episodes (I'd be more diplomatical and call them weaker) usually have something I really like about them, even "Fear Her"...
I can't get behind that, not at all. It has some nice throwaway moments, but the episode is, by and whole, complete shit. Its attempts at comedy are awful, and I just can't enjoy it. I hated it the first time around, and my wife -- now seeing the season for the first time after we bought the DVDs -- feels the same way.
I wasn't surprised to see that it was written by Gareth Roberts; The Shakespeare Code was, by far, the weakest episode of the third season (outside of Last of the Time Lords).
Really? But if the box hasn't been opened?
Certainly, provided the box is still sealed. I would guess it's the same way in NZ; here, all new dvds are shrinkwrapped and have stickers on the top of the dvd that have to be removed before one can open the case and get the dvds out. Provided they are still intact, they can be returned for store credit. If you have a receipt, you can get cash back instead, if you prefer.
Either seasons one(/27) or four(/30), which are easily the best of the new run. If the latter's not available in your region yet, then season one...
Ps: But... there is talk that season one may be re-released with some extra extras - deleted scenes, etc, which had got misfiled on the BBC's edit systems at the time, but have been relocated since. But that is, for the moment, only rumour (as in 'Paterson Joseph is confidentily rumoured to be the 11th Doctor').
Ps: But... there is talk that season one may be re-released with some extra extras - deleted scenes, etc, which had got misfiled on the BBC's edit systems at the time, but have been relocated since. But that is, for the moment, only rumour (as in 'Paterson Joseph is confidentily rumoured to be the 11th Doctor').
No, cases here are not shrink wrapped nor is there a protection sticker anywhere. It would be very good if there were...
Piracy is such a big concern that if you buy it, you can't return or exchange it (but if damaged will be replaced).
No you're correct, I posted that last year.
Basically VHS recordings are for the purpose of time shifting only, that is you record to watch at a later date then are supposed to erase them.
It's one of those laws that never get enforced, given many cops have VHS collections as well...
We've only just had a law passed that says we're allowed to make a digital copy of our own material provided it was bought by you and not leant to you. How they would enforce that as well, given you wouldn't hold onto receipts for absolutely EVERYTHING...
It's arguable that keeping an off-air copy, rather than erasing it after viewing it for time-shifting, is illegal everywhere under the 1988 Berne convention.
But... the copyright holders (or the anti-copyright breach bodies they fund) need a test case to prove that, and (so far as I know, which means the UK) every time someone's tried to bring one, it's been dropped before reaching court as they realised they'd probably lose (as they need to prove that the copyright holders' interests have been materially damaged to win). And until that test case is on the statute books, then you're probably OK, as you can argue 'fair use'.
(NB: I am not a lawyer. As you'll notice from the lack of any bill for this advice!).
I'd have to tie between 1 and 3. One does a really good job of reintroducing the series (especially Dalek and Rose) and has some great episodes and good moments. Two is a little hit and miss though the Rose/Ten wall scene is one of my favorite RTD moments.
But... with 3 there were far stronger episodes, Human Nature being one of my favorites and although the finale has a love it or hate it thing with the fans I personally enjoyed the pacing, the Master changing as much as the Doctor does by regenerating and the final scene between the two.
Although Freema's better with the mute on (and both she and Billie Piper were out shined by Catherine Tate in 4's finale) the quality was far better than 2.
I think the reason I'm torn between the two is that I like Tennant over Eccelston for his geeky charm - and it was watching him in the role that got me watching again as I missed S1 entirely.
But... with 3 there were far stronger episodes, Human Nature being one of my favorites and although the finale has a love it or hate it thing with the fans I personally enjoyed the pacing, the Master changing as much as the Doctor does by regenerating and the final scene between the two.
Although Freema's better with the mute on (and both she and Billie Piper were out shined by Catherine Tate in 4's finale) the quality was far better than 2.
I think the reason I'm torn between the two is that I like Tennant over Eccelston for his geeky charm - and it was watching him in the role that got me watching again as I missed S1 entirely.
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