Where's the Masters TARDIS?

[David cgc]

The problem with that theory is that he had another year and a half between escaping the end of the Universe and meeting the Doctor again. During which time, he repeatedly used the Doctor's TARDIS to travel to the end of the universe (and some distance from the original planet, depending on how close the rocket got to Utopia before things went pear-shaped). So, as long as the Master's TARDIS was closer to the original planet than Utopia (or the wreak of the rocket), he would've been able to travel to it. Considering that he's almost as clever as the Doctor, he probably would've even been able to rig up some way to tow or remote control one from the other, and keep both.

 

[starsuperion]

The problem with that theory is that he had another year and a half between escaping the end of the Universe and meeting the Doctor again. During which time, he repeatedly used the Doctor's TARDIS to travel to the end of the universe (and some distance from the original planet, depending on how close the rocket got to Utopia before things went pear-shaped). So, as long as the Master's TARDIS was closer to the original planet than Utopia (or the wreak of the rocket), he would've been able to travel to it. Considering that he's almost as clever as the Doctor, he probably would've even been able to rig up some way to tow or remote control one from the other, and keep both.

I disagree, the tardis may have been unable to find the place the professor (master) ended up when he first arrived at the end of time..since there are no stars left in the universe for the ships to navigate direction by, plus what if he left instructions for someone to bury his ship once he completed his arc transformation to human..also didn't he say he was found on a beach?? could his ship be underwater then??

 

[Trevacious]

Can a TARDIS survive over a long haul without a Time Lord in its vicinity? (Or even a clever human who can enable it to do its thing?) Flashback to the Doctor's TARDIS without the Doctor in the episode, "Turn Left." Less than a year later and it was at a very low ebb.

There was another reference to it dying in Series One. The recording of the Doctor for Emergency Program One instructed Rose to "let the TARDIS die," so it would never fall into an enemy's hands.

Because of those moments, I wonder if the Master's TARDIS may just be long gone. The TARDIS needs to be refueled from time to time, too. Not sure how old the Master's human identity was, but, if he really started out as a naked child washed up on a beach, that's a long time to sit untended for even the best machine or being.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I'd imagine that a Tardis would eventually die after centuries of inactivity...no one to maintain it, assuming of course it's power source (Time Vortex?) had a life expectancy of some kind.

 

[DWF]

I'd imagine that a Tardis would eventually die after centuries of inactivity...no one to maintain it, assuming of course it's power source (Time Vortex?) had a life expectancy of some kind.

Well we've seen on the new series that the Doctor's TARDIS needs to be refueled from time to time that's why he want to Cardiff from time to time. Now with the riff closed since it was part of the cracks in time, we don't know how the TARDIS will refuel itself. It's possible I suppose to shut down a TARDIS and start it back up again at a late date or the Master might be able to put his in a hover mode. Or it could be travelling backwards in time to get him at a later date just the Doctor's TARDIS did after The Ark In Space.

 

[The]

How do we know the rift in Cardiff closed? I don't remember that being part of it...

 

[Davros]

So, then, it's possible there's a dormant TARDIS sitting near the end of the universe?

yes, but the master will have not remembered where it was in the utopia era.. or was unable to find it when he went back to rescue the toklofane...using the doctor's tardis was all he could do..maybe his ship was in chameleon mode and left on some cold lifeless world on the edge of collapsing reality..it would then be a possibility that someone could hotwire the thing and use it.. but then there is the pesky little matter of the isomorphic control system which prohibits anyone else other then the master from using it..


so maybe it is useless..

The planet it was on might not be there anymore.

 

[DWF]

How do we know the rift in Cardiff closed? I don't remember that being part of it...

RTD said something about it in the news about the new Torchwood series.

 

[arch101]

Keep your eyes out for a Doric column where there shouldn't be one...

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It's disguised as the hat rack in the Doctor's TARDIS.

It did disappear for a long time.

 

[The]

When was it gone? Eccles had it, right?

 

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah Russell did state recently that the Cardiff rift has been closed.

 

[The]

Just sweeping that whole angle out of the way, eh? Cool. They probably saw what works with CoE, and are now branching out with all of this US funding and stuff.

Man. Imagine if the Beeb went and got US backing partners for Who, itself. Would they have learned from their errors in 1996, and make something magical and inherently Who but with a broader canvas? Or would they just make the same kind of mistakes again (i.e. Americanization, etc.)?

 

[Admiral_Young]

I don't know if it is sweeping that plot point away...but it makes sense since the Hub was destroyed and if there is now some uber-agency in replace of Torchwood since CoW closed the Rift I have no problem with that. I do agree that RTD probably understood that the type of story and scope that worked with Torchwood after CoE and chose to abandoned the "small fry" contained stories. That being said we still don't really know how this new global story is going to incorporate any elements of the previous series.