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Where was the Enterprise E during the dominion war?
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You mean the TNG writers would have ended the war after 6 episodes?
But if they had done a Dominion-focused story with the Enterprise-E, we wouldn't have got the wonderful movie that was "Insurrection!" /sarcasm
Insurrections ambigous nature doesn't clarify what's happening outside the context of the movie. Starfleet working with the Dominion allies the Son'a. Weyoun referencing the Son'a in DS9 season 7 to defend a territory but at the conclusion of Insurrection they were all caught or reunited with the Ba'ku. Also Ru'afo's conversation with Admiral Doughtry about the Federation being challenged by the Borg, Cardassians and Dominion, could be interpreted as the conflict between the Federation and Dominion is over.
The impression I think the fans got was that the Enterprise E was solving mysteries and having fun while the rest of the fleet was fighting for survival.
No matter how you flip it, it doesn't make much sense.
They hyped up the Enterprise E as being the most advanced ship in the fleet and yet when we have chance to see it in action, they pass on it.
Perhaps a case of trying too hard to separate TNG from DS9-- and went for another "alien/plot of the week" storyline.
I don't think it would have bothered the fans or affected the series.
That's what they did with the series finale of Enterprise anway-- it was basically a TNG story.
No matter how you flip it, it doesn't make much sense.
They hyped up the Enterprise E as being the most advanced ship in the fleet and yet when we have chance to see it in action, they pass on it.
Perhaps a case of trying too hard to separate TNG from DS9-- and went for another "alien/plot of the week" storyline.
I don't think it would have bothered the fans or affected the series.
That's what they did with the series finale of Enterprise anway-- it was basically a TNG story.
Yeah. It's all very very awkward.
You know what would have been amazing? I certainly wouldn't advocate wrapping up the Dominion War entirely in a TNG movie (robbing DS9 of the chance to wrap up their own big story arc wouldn't have made any sense), but what they could have done was make a movie about the liberation of Betazed. We'd get a movie involving the Dominion War, the Ent-E finally getting to really kick some ass on screen, Picard and Weyoun trading well-articulated bards... it'd be fantastic! And a direct connection to TNG is already there with Deanna and possibly even Lwaxana.
What could have been...
As for the Ent-E: I think both of the out-of-universe reasons are dumb (the audience would not have been confused beyond hope by seeing the image of a Sovereign in DS9, and "hoarding" the model so that it was MOVIES ONRY is just silly). My take is that the Ent-E DID participate in some of the battles. Had to. We just never saw em. Same for the Sovereign herself.
I never saw the Intrepid class as a heavy combatant, but it'd be invaluable as a courier, scout... anything requiring speed and sensors. Again, I think the class participated in the war, we just never saw it (excepting the Bellerophon, of course).
I know there's not much point in asking, but do you have any proof of this assertion that Behr just couldn't stand anything remotely DS9-related happening outside his show and snarled at all attempts to do so like Gollum clutching the One Ring?
Of course he doesn't, and it's best to stop asking if you want the thread to actually remain about the Ent-E during the Dominion War.
I definitely agree with Saito S about the third TNG movie being about the liberation of Betazed. It's a MASSIVE missed opportunity, regardless of whatever out-of-universe reasons may have prevented it. It would've been far better than Insurrection I think, not that that's exactly a high bar to overcome. It seems EXTREMELY obvious to me that the Enterprise-E was participating in DW battles, just never the ones we saw in the show. I try my damnedest to just ignore the geological surveys line from Picard in INS because the notion that they're off just exploring stuff in what is suggested in FC to be a very capable warship while the UFP is in serious danger of being beaten is an absurdly stupid one.
I think the obvious, if still unsatisfying, answer is that the Ent-E WAS fighting in the Dominion War, just that it happened to never be in any battles that we saw. =P
I definitely agree with Saito S about the third TNG movie being about the liberation of Betazed. It's a MASSIVE missed opportunity, regardless of whatever out-of-universe reasons may have prevented it. It would've been far better than Insurrection I think, not that that's exactly a high bar to overcome. It seems EXTREMELY obvious to me that the Enterprise-E was participating in DW battles, just never the ones we saw in the show. I try my damnedest to just ignore the geological surveys line from Picard in INS because the notion that they're off just exploring stuff in what is suggested in FC to be a very capable warship while the UFP is in serious danger of being beaten is an absurdly stupid one.
I think the obvious, if still unsatisfying, answer is that the Ent-E WAS fighting in the Dominion War, just that it happened to never be in any battles that we saw. =P
I think you're right. Every other explanation doesn't really pan out. The Sovereigns must have been engaged in the conflict, just not on screen.
They did do a novel called "The Battle of Betazed," right? Trek lit can often fix things that are mistakes/missed opportunities in the movies/shows.
I never read it, but come to think of it, yeah they did. http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Battle_of_Betazed
Hell yes they do! The Borg Queen comes to mind.
I am sure the 'E' saw some action, but it is also possible that Starfleet was conserving its most advanced capital ships for part of the war. Surveying and such...
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