Where is the autism talk at?

[Nerys Myk]

Vulcan monks who passed Kohlinar have a better lovelife.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

^It's really sad that LaForge (apparently) only found love in the alternate timeline created by the anti-time anomaly.

--Sran

 

[T'Girl]

Livingston alone in his fishbowl has a better ...

 

[Autistoid]

Do you realize how small of the population read that type of magazine 20 + years ago.

What's your point? Do you realize how little of the population 20+ years ago read a magazine like Star Trek Communicator?

The LGBT market was much much smaller than it is today.

 

[BillJ]

The LGBT market was much much smaller than it is today.

I'm not sure it really was.

 

[Chronos]

I think that you're finding connections that aren't really there. Although a few of the characters exhibit autism-like traits (Data, for example), most are not human and, therefore, the definition of autism cannot apply to them.

Most also have some other explanation for their behavior. Data is not human, and therefore struggles to understand humanity as a result of his very design. Worf is trapped between two worlds, never quite fitting in with Humans nor Klingons as a result of his upbringing on Earth.

 

[Nightdiamond]

Regardless modern family comparison is absurd.

Considering Modern Family is set in the present day and has gay characters, a show set in the 24th century that doesn't seems far more absurd to me.

Besides, Trek didn't need to revolve stories around gay characters, it just needed to acknowledge that they existed at all.

I donno I think with the old style framework it'd really not work well.

It's too geared to children.

Once you open the door it's hard to not expand on the subject.

Does sex even exist on trek?

Of course it's obviously implied but you know what I mean.

I've yet to see flagship bathroom.

Austoid has a point though. Trek at that time, seemed really cautious about things like that.

It was trying to appeal to both children and adults, and conservative elements.

TNG characters were mainly about their work or their adventures. Everything seemed to be kept in a neat conservative category.

All the "normal" stuff like cheeseburgers, energy drinks, soul music, rock music, bathrooms, TV, were treated like it barely existed.

When you want a 3 dimensional world where there are different choices, orientations, preferences and opinions, like bisexuality for example, you need a real world-- not a carefully constructed universe where everyone is "proper".

 

[Melakon]

I think that you're finding connections that aren't really there. Although a few of the characters exhibit autism-like traits (Data, for example), most are not human and, therefore, the definition of autism cannot apply to them.

Most also have some other explanation for their behavior. Data is not human, and therefore struggles to understand humanity as a result of his very design. Worf is trapped between two worlds, never quite fitting in with Humans nor Klingons as a result of his upbringing on Earth.

An argument might be made for that kid rescued as the sole survivor from a damaged ship in "Hero Worship", who then tries to become emotionless like Data.

 

[Chronos]

I think that you're finding connections that aren't really there. Although a few of the characters exhibit autism-like traits (Data, for example), most are not human and, therefore, the definition of autism cannot apply to them.

Most also have some other explanation for their behavior. Data is not human, and therefore struggles to understand humanity as a result of his very design. Worf is trapped between two worlds, never quite fitting in with Humans nor Klingons as a result of his upbringing on Earth.

An argument might be made for that kid rescued as the sole survivor from a damaged ship in "Hero Worship", who then tries to become emotionless like Data.

I would say that he acted as he did out of severe emotional distress. I wouldn't say that he definitely does not have autism, but the distress and then sudden attachment to Data make it difficult to tell. You can't really diagnose someone when there is such a huge second factor at play.

 

[LadyT'Anna]

I think that you're finding connections that aren't really there. Although a few of the characters exhibit autism-like traits (Data, for example), most are not human and, therefore, the definition of autism cannot apply to them.

Most also have some other explanation for their behavior. Data is not human, and therefore struggles to understand humanity as a result of his very design. Worf is trapped between two worlds, never quite fitting in with Humans nor Klingons as a result of his upbringing on Earth.

An argument might be made for that kid rescued as the sole survivor from a damaged ship in "Hero Worship", who then tries to become emotionless like Data.

I would say that he acted as he did out of severe emotional distress. I wouldn't say that he definitely does not have autism, but the distress and then sudden attachment to Data make it difficult to tell. You can't really diagnose someone when there is such a huge second factor at play.

It's interesting to me that Spock in TOS is capable of love--or something very much like it--when a second factor is at play, be it narcotic spores, pon farr, or time regression. I seem to recall Data hugging or kissing a woman on the logical presumption that she needed it, although I regret that I remember neither the woman nor the episode.

 

[T'Girl]

Ensigns of Command.

 

[LadyT'Anna]

Ensigns of Command.

That was good, T'Girl; thank you very kindly. Your memory of TNG is far better than mine!

So . . . Spock, Ard'rian, and Data are all capable of love even though they might not realize it. Kudos to Trek for taking the hopeful view!